vido wrote:AQ gear, is in favor of the BRE debuff. The more damage you do the more the proc adds dps. With world buffs your BRE will start pulling ahead the pack (similarly to Ironfoe).
You do lack attack speed to execute effectively on long fights, but a slow swing speed is something you can take advantage of by using BT/WW + execute between swings or execute + bloodrage execute or rage pot etc. Of course you can swap to DW for a long execute phase regardless, but if you stick to a BRE the proc should make up for for the low execute frequency as long as you're not just mindlessly spamming executes.
Yes of course better gear favours such procs.. but isn't Edgemaster + a suitable weapon combo BETTER? I mean even at this gear level, DWs are ahead. As far as I know, there is no occasion where a good 2h fury warrior has beaten a good DW fury warrior, and I've been looking at a whole bunch of raids. This is in terms of total damage, though I have not looked into MC numbers I still believe DWs overall do more dmg even there. (I may stand corrected)
Swapping to DW in 9% hit (which you probably use as 2h) for executes is not very optimal I believe. Since I am personally almost never fully buffed(world buffed) on Nefarian encounters, I do ~250 glancings when I have ran out of rage at execute phase, while the BRE proc slowly ticks off. And I do BT/WW most of the time during execute phase, yet I believe (and have more or less been proven) that DW warriors do significantly more damage during this phase and very often resulting in more DPS overall on that encounter. Besides, how many guilds are there that actually run fully buffed through an entire BWL, or lets say will run through an enitre AQ without wipes when that hits? Like 5 on this server, with 1-2 on horde side? And even in those guilds, even during those fully buffed runs, DW is seemingly always above 2h.
It feels like the story with Ironfoe, it is on the spreadsheet indeed the best out of all weapons if fully buffed and so on. But what does it really give? Extra rage and occasionally(proc) some more DPS? But rage is not a problem if you are world buffed, in fact I dont think Ironfoe will proc enough during some short encounters to make up for its compareably low DPS, and it is in these encounters where you actually would notice the superiority of the Ironfoe. Even here I believe that Vis'kag + Mala will pull better numbers during the same optimal conditions. Ironfoe may be superior to others during execute phase for long fights. But that is pretty much it, and those fights wont take you anywhere on any chart, where the
BEST weapon should be taking you.
Same goes for BRE, the 3/3 debuff ROCKS, I get it, it is all over the spreadsheet screaming it to me. But I feel like one fails to squeeze out the optimal of a warrior using a BRE, since during the optimal condition fights, no one seems capable of using a BT/WW inbetween a crit up to 100 rage where one wastes the excessive rage. Because this 2h warrior should in theory have surpassed every other warrior, but this is not the case, there is as far as I know no such encounter recorded. I get the feeling that in the fights where one is fully buffed, where BRE
should prevail, one still can not generate rage at enough rate, or to draw benefit from the buff for long enough to keep up with or surpass a DW warrior.
Until proven otherwise, I find it hard to embrance that BRE is the best. I don't mean to sound rude if you take me like that, I'm only here to discuss this matter. Genuinely interested. Can't it be possible that it is unhuman to make BRE > everything else? Or that the optimal condition fights where it really shows its power will be so few, rare and short that it is impossible to stay ahead of a DW?
. It feels like can do insane dps at times with slams and some good rng, It just feels really odd on this server with the combat log/auto attack bugs so I've stuck with hamstring the last time I raided fury spec.
