Killerduki's Tankadin Run Video's PoV

Killerduki's Tankadin Run Video's PoV

by smilkovpetko » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:18 pm

My Twitch : http://www.twitch.tv/killerduki
My Youtube Channel : https://www.youtube.com/user/killerduki/videos
My reddit : https://www.reddit.com/r/NostalriusBegi ... n_paladin/

(no engineering bombs) - don't have that professions
(no improved seal of righteousness)

WC Pt 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5c37mk1p7c
WC Pt 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ZS0cIU28o
DM/VC - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs5S9ezV0fI
SFK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbN-KLzdVe4
BFD - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnztB1B5wVc
Stockade - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nXsAW6J904
RFK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJyQYdyTocw
Gnomeregan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6TBQhrWtSI
SM Graveyard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeQ0i1u43mo
SM Library - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWDqaOGWVME
SM Armory Pt 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH2xN5cudMM
SM Armory Pt 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoZ9_GkrIUk
SM Cathedral - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV1IQebOaBs
RFD - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR9QXIUj6w4
RFD Duo Screen with friend Arms Warrior - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g33cA0DOpw
Uldaman - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rTVE-8rpVs
ZF - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCh-Qf0QHOI
Maraudon = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odcbc11jYNU
ST = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReaeABQTSU0
BRD Arena part only = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hQzVdI-U0s
BRD Part 1 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeU2JoSpdME
BRD Part 2 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hXV_-UeCLI
LBRS Part 1 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zSOn6Tlo7o
LBRS Part 2 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU77JUOtugs
DM East = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgK6qVmGlMc
DM West Part 1 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXAxOL0t6lc
DM West Part 2 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kL5BNESywE
DM North Part 1 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsqMVL-IcUM
DM North King = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwyrjF5rOMI
Stratholme Living Part 1 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzlc3Pbeqew
Stratholme Living Part 2 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dZJO99uZBw
Last Closing days :s :s = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dpUYeL ... e=youtu.be


Cheers and i hope you enjoy in Videos
(i hate the music there since youtube don't allow me to use my favorite).
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Re: Killerduki's Tankadin Run Scarlet Monastery PoV

by JCarrill0 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:34 pm

smilkovpetko wrote:Related to https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=22774
Related to viewtopic.php?f=43&t=19925#p129625

(no blessing of sanctuary) - not yet lvl for that
(no engineering bombs) - don't have that professions
(no mana drinking) - 90% of time i don't drink
(no improved seal of righteousness)
(food buff used)

SM Graveyard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeQ0i1u43mo

SM Library - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWDqaOGWVME

SM Armory Pt 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH2xN5cudMM
(server got crush at end)
SM Armory Pt 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoZ9_GkrIUk

SM Cathedral - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV1IQebOaBs


(all talk about improved sor ) - imp sor gives extra 3 Holy Dmg by sor = 5 Threats per swing or 2.5 TPS which is 0.1% increasing on your aggro.

Current level i got 53 Intellect + buffs = (let say 60) which is 6 intellect increase by Divine Intellect or 90 Mana more which i more like to see my mana pool to have more control over overall situation.

Cheers and i hope you enjoy in Videos (i hate the music there).

Congrats?
I'm not really sure on the purpose or point other then the boasting here. I did the same thing yesterday, as Holy. I didn't need to be prot to tank SM. Grats non the less, I know its your desire to show the naysayers, so keep it up :)
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Re: Killerduki's Tankadin Run Scarlet Monastery PoV

by TheFishyOne » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:25 am

I think this kind of thing has much value; not just in showing that we CAN do it, but also HOW to do it. The GY video made pretty much every time I tanked SM look clownish, and although I was a VERY experienced Pallytank on Live, NONE of that experience came until the TBC prepatch (and reworked talents + taunt), so as far as Vanilla Pallytanking goes, I'm a neophyte.

Granted, I feel @ 50 I have learned much since the SM levels, but I'm still able to learn a thing or two about technique from critically watching these, and as more than a few caster DPS, healers, and even a Warrior have complemented my 5-man tanking, and told me that I was the first Tankadin they'd ever grouped with who was any good, I can't possibly be the only Tankadin on this server who could learn from these kinds of videos.

JC, you or Theloras or Duki needs to make a partner guide to your pre-raid gear guide that talks just about technique, and maybe spec. And it shall be called...Stickied. =)
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Re: Killerduki's Tankadin Run Scarlet Monastery PoV

by smilkovpetko » Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:10 pm

Updated with RFD Tanking .

Topic is now renamed .
For the Video i used Twitch upload.
Couldn't go for higher resolution since "my old pc frames dying"
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Re: Killerduki's Tankadin Run Video's PoV

by stif » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:46 am

nice video man ;)
keep up the good work
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Re: Killerduki's Tankadin Run Video's PoV

by smilkovpetko » Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:04 am

updated with uldaman tanking.
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Re: Killerduki's Tankadin Run Video's PoV

by Lexi » Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:18 am

Well I think the biggest issue is the end game dungeons. I leveled to prot as 60 and did most of the dungeons (Stockades/Gnomer/Ulda/Maraudon/and ST) and everything was fine and dandy. Losing agro to DPS/Heals (95% of parties members didn't have KTM) was really easy to get back and mana was never an issue for me either.

Other than BRD, which is a breeze like the lower level dungeons, things start to get tricky. UD Strat isn't too bad either, but the roots/silences can cause issues. And for places like Dire Maul/Scholomance it easy to get your face melted with all the casters and holy shield is useless. On top of that DPS is use to warrior tanks who have far less downtime and its really hard to get through multiple trash packs without drinking in these higher level dungeons.

Another dilemma is if mechanics call for a threat dump you're pretty much screwed. Yes you can BoP whoever the boss goes for but you still won't be next on the threat list.

I am actually at a real dilemma now since I'm on the "Judgement and Righteousness" for our epic mount and I think my only option is to get in a group as an offtank. Rattlegore does that thing that punts the tank in the area and drops threat and without a taunt I don't know what I can do.

Leveling dungeons as prot = very easy. Almost mindlessly so.
60 dungeons = different story.

Though I have really enjoyed it :) It's something different and I do really enjoy the challenge it brings.
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Re: Killerduki's Tankadin Run Video's PoV

by TheFishyOne » Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:29 am

Duki,I noticed that when you fought Ironaya, you pulled with JotC, and didn't use anything but SoR, and didn't lose aggro. Did you give everyone in the group Salv?
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Re: Killerduki's Tankadin Run Video's PoV

by smilkovpetko » Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:54 am

TheFishyOne wrote:Duki,I noticed that when you fought Ironaya, you pulled with JotC, and didn't use anything but SoR, and didn't lose aggro. Did you give everyone in the group Salv?


That is what always paladin Tank should do.

Salvation to group and Sanctuary to himself with exception to healers they usual get Blessing of Wisdom (unless there is someone else to do that) .

This is our job no matter what raid or dungeon .

But i am glad that someone finally notice that i don't need anything that jotc and sor on Bosses :)
(same rule apply for high end with some exceptions depend on situations) .
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Re: Killerduki's Tankadin Run Video's PoV

by Lexi » Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:22 pm

TheFishyOne wrote:Duki,I noticed that when you fought Ironaya, you pulled with JotC, and didn't use anything but SoR, and didn't lose aggro. Did you give everyone in the group Salv?


This is again an example of low level dungeons and the freedom you have. You have time to throw up crusader on a boss, and which to SoR.

In 60 dungeons, you can't get away with that unless you tell your dps to chill for 10 seconds.

I just want to make the point that the tanking in the videos is not what you can get by with in BRD/Strat/DM/Scholo/etc. You need to Judge Seal and pray he whacks you a few times with Holy Shield up and a few ticks of consec before dps unload. And yes, this is with Salv on everyone (much to their dismay mind you).

Not trying to be a naysayer, just saying there isn't anything groundbreaking here. A lot of Paladins level up as Protection and I think the community supports this.

The problem with protection Paladins is level 60/end game. :mrgreen:

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smilkovpetko wrote:But i am glad that someone finally notice that i don't need anything that jotc and sor on Bosses :)
(same rule apply for high end with some exceptions depend on situations) .


Not accurate unless you change "some exceptions" with "a lot, actually a ton of expections".

The difference between Warrior/Paladin tanks in lower level dungeons is a nonfactor. In every scenario in "high end" a Warrior is superior save maybe BRD where you can get 100 dwarfs to whack you and consume all charges of Holy Shield :3
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