Is ret pally viable

[smilkovpetko]

your point? of what.. that it doesn't matter and not worth the gold/effort considering it can only do subpar numbers on ST fights? yes.
welcome to blizzlike.

you see the problem with you , you don't even consider as "tryhard" if you don't meet the maximum requirements for maximum dps in order to be TOP on RaidStats as Paladin.

Where those TOP dps (non paladin) are using all the benefits to get TOP.

[Imbaslap]

your point? of what.. that it doesn't matter and not worth the gold/effort considering it can only do subpar numbers on ST fights? yes.
welcome to blizzlike.

you see the problem with you , you don't even consider as "tryhard" if you don't meet the maximum requirements for maximum dps in order to be TOP on RaidStats as Paladin.

Where those TOP dps (non paladin) are using all the benefits to get TOP.

what if I told you that raid stats don't matter.

[Theloras]

your point? of what.. that it doesn't matter and not worth the gold/effort considering it can only do subpar numbers on ST fights? yes.
welcome to blizzlike.

you see the problem with you , you don't even consider as "tryhard" if you don't meet the maximum requirements for maximum dps in order to be TOP on RaidStats as Paladin.

Where those TOP dps (non paladin) are using all the benefits to get TOP.

what if I told you that raid stats don't matter.

lol tell that to Ana!

[Hammersplat]

If you're good enough to do descent dps as ret pala, you would do more dps as fury/mage/rogue/lock, since you're most likely a pretty good player.

Sure maybe it CAN be viable, but it's not good.

yeah but if you a a rogue/etc you aren't giving people a fire resist aura or buffing people kings etc You don't res people. You are basically useless for those things. It's not very viable not to buff ppl and res them is it?

basically these ret pallies are great to have in a raid. And if you look around and listen you will find that the most interesting and positive thinking people make paladins. Think it can't be done?? and it's too hard? Ret pallies never think like this. They are very nice to be around and always inspire the other people in the raid.

Also they like to do the content thoroughly. They like to do things slowly and get max enjoyment out of every encounter.

i don't know why people are still arguing about this.

[Armilus]

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Playe ... Holystrike

The #1 ret paladin on Nost is #1000-2000 for highest average dps on the bosses in BWL.

For comparison the top feral druids are in the top 500 for highest average dps on most bosses in BWL.

The top priests are in the top 300 for most bosses in BWL.

Basically, every class aside from enhancement or elemental shaman has better dps than ret paladin in BWL based on recorded data from hundreds and hundreds of raids on Nost.

Note: I am simply stating a fact. I am not drawing any conclusions or telling the OP whether paladins are viable or not. I am ONLY presenting a clear fact. Hopefully this piece of information helps them answer the question for themself.

See http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Ranki ... ssLimit=Pa for more info

[smilkovpetko]

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/PlayerOverview.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Holystrike

The #1 ret paladin on Nost is #1000-2000 for highest average dps on the bosses in BWL.

For comparison the top feral druids are in the top 500 for highest average dps on most bosses in BWL.

The top priests are in the top 300 for most bosses in BWL.

Basically, every class aside from enhancement or elemental shaman has better dps than ret paladin in BWL based on recorded data from hundreds and hundreds of raids on Nost.

Note: I am simply stating a fact. I am not drawing any conclusions or telling the OP whether paladins are viable or not. I am ONLY presenting a clear fact. Hopefully this piece of information helps them answer the question for themself.

See http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Ranki ... ssLimit=Pa for more info

and have you ever check our bugs why is that?

let me see ....
Holystrike not always Dps which bring his average dps down.

and yeah ...
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2871

good luck trying to prove something bugged.

now let me check on MC where this bug is not presented.

and at the end of the day with all those bugs listed (including the gear that does not suit with the patch and our abilities)
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=25556

you still have http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... t=21215718

doing 500 dps on 1 target (not even very bis and not even tryhard with all consumes and boosts to top).

[Theloras]

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/PlayerOverview.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Holystrike

The #1 ret paladin on Nost is #1000-2000 for highest average dps on the bosses in BWL.

For comparison the top feral druids are in the top 500 for highest average dps on most bosses in BWL.

The top priests are in the top 300 for most bosses in BWL.

Basically, every class aside from enhancement or elemental shaman has better dps than ret paladin in BWL based on recorded data from hundreds and hundreds of raids on Nost.

Note: I am simply stating a fact. I am not drawing any conclusions or telling the OP whether paladins are viable or not. I am ONLY presenting a clear fact. Hopefully this piece of information helps them answer the question for themself.

See http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Ranki ... ssLimit=Pa for more info

and have you ever check our bugs why is that?

let me see ....
Holystrike not always Dps which bring his average dps down.

and yeah ...
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2871

good luck trying to prove something bugged.

now let me check on MC where this bug is not presented.

and at the end of the day with all those bugs listed (including the gear that does not suit with the patch and our abilities)
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=25556

you still have http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... t=21215718

doing 500 dps on 1 target (not even very bis and not even tryhard with all consumes and boosts to top).

Mobs in Molten Core have Holy Resistance as well

http://imageshack.com/a/img912/1708/E75HII.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img905/80/aymcN8.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img905/1577/f4v3IK.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img912/4973/L8gqm8.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img911/2802/Ohr7JY.jpg

gg

[smilkovpetko]

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/PlayerOverview.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Holystrike

The #1 ret paladin on Nost is #1000-2000 for highest average dps on the bosses in BWL.

For comparison the top feral druids are in the top 500 for highest average dps on most bosses in BWL.

The top priests are in the top 300 for most bosses in BWL.

Basically, every class aside from enhancement or elemental shaman has better dps than ret paladin in BWL based on recorded data from hundreds and hundreds of raids on Nost.

Note: I am simply stating a fact. I am not drawing any conclusions or telling the OP whether paladins are viable or not. I am ONLY presenting a clear fact. Hopefully this piece of information helps them answer the question for themself.

See http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Ranki ... ssLimit=Pa for more info

and have you ever check our bugs why is that?

let me see ....
Holystrike not always Dps which bring his average dps down.

and yeah ...
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2871

good luck trying to prove something bugged.

now let me check on MC where this bug is not presented.

and at the end of the day with all those bugs listed (including the gear that does not suit with the patch and our abilities)
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=25556

you still have http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... t=21215718

doing 500 dps on 1 target (not even very bis and not even tryhard with all consumes and boosts to top).

Mobs in Molten Core have Holy Resistance as well

http://imageshack.com/a/img912/1708/E75HII.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img905/80/aymcN8.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img905/1577/f4v3IK.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img912/4973/L8gqm8.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img911/2802/Ohr7JY.jpg

gg

you should add that to bugtracker either