Dire Maul release

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Re: Dire Maul release

by Guybrush » Fri May 29, 2015 5:48 pm

Cousy wrote:https://web.archive.org/web/20050411132 ... item=18371

April 11th 2005, In between DM release and 1.4 patch (which was May 5th)

Mindtap Talisman, 11 mp5

So if it's not on the loot tables, it should be.


Yeah I noticed it as well. No idea why it wasn't added.
The Thotbott archive has it in April as well but for some reason the source is Live 1.4.0:
https://web.archive.org/web/20050426071 ... m/?i=35819
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Re: Dire Maul release

by Mobi » Fri May 29, 2015 5:53 pm

Guybrush wrote:
Cousy wrote:https://web.archive.org/web/20050411132 ... item=18371

April 11th 2005, In between DM release and 1.4 patch (which was May 5th)

Mindtap Talisman, 11 mp5

So if it's not on the loot tables, it should be.


Yeah I noticed it as well. No idea why it wasn't added.
The Thotbott archive has it in April as well but for some reason the source is Live 1.4.0:
https://web.archive.org/web/20050426071 ... m/?i=35819


Dunno why it says 1.4.0 there but clearly the dates disagree. The site has a seperate page for data from the PTR, so it was definitely in the game in 1.3
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Re: Dire Maul release

by FrustratedMoth » Fri May 29, 2015 6:35 pm

psychofast wrote:Does this means we are getting Majordomo loot now?
Nobody cares about this blue shitgear dungeon. Its only good for mage water.
Are we getting the new purples or not?

Careful. Retail PvE was ruined by people with this mindset.
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Re: Dire Maul release

by Mchayes » Fri May 29, 2015 7:04 pm

FrustratedMoth wrote:
psychofast wrote:Does this means we are getting Majordomo loot now?
Nobody cares about this blue shitgear dungeon. Its only good for mage water.
Are we getting the new purples or not?

Careful. Retail PvE was ruined by people with this mindset.


Indeed, roll retail if you really want dem purples! ^))
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Re: Dire Maul release

by Rilo » Fri May 29, 2015 11:19 pm

Nervous that was perhaps the best post I have ever read on these forums
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Re: Dire Maul release

by Badtank » Fri May 29, 2015 11:37 pm

Lazermon wrote:@mobi

This isn't a question of whether the items should be in or not, the itemid from wowhead solved that little issue last time we had that discussion. This is an issue of not being able to find the 1.3 stats for x amount of items, as you yourself noted, you couldn't dig them up. I've tried myself too, and haven't found a way.



Yet another good reason to cut this nerfed item bullshit out. It's stupid and not even serving its original purpose. At this point it is going to straight up start driving people away faster then anything else. Do we have a list of these fucking items? Because I really don't want to go help my rouges grind for muggers belt only to find out after 20 runs its not even in the god damn game.
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Re: Dire Maul release

by Mobi » Sat May 30, 2015 12:25 am

Badtank wrote:
Lazermon wrote:@mobi

This isn't a question of whether the items should be in or not, the itemid from wowhead solved that little issue last time we had that discussion. This is an issue of not being able to find the 1.3 stats for x amount of items, as you yourself noted, you couldn't dig them up. I've tried myself too, and haven't found a way.



Yet another good reason to cut this nerfed item bullshit out. It's stupid and not even serving its original purpose. At this point it is going to straight up start driving people away faster then anything else. Do we have a list of these fucking items? Because I really don't want to go help my rouges grind for muggers belt only to find out after 20 runs its not even in the god damn game.


You'll be able to ping the items in game, if you can't ping them, they're not in.

I kinda disagree that the nerfed items aren't doing their jobs, I don't watch other guilds much but every once in a while I see some guild link a stream and I have seen some guilds are not face rolling threw the content, not to mention I notice the difference immediately in my own DPS compared to other servers, its pretty massive. It wouldn't surprise me if there are guilds out there that see Sons of Rag. There is greater reward for doing things correctly at the moment which is how it should be. Without fundamental changes to the encounters, something I would NOT be a fan of, it would be impossible to make the fights any harder after all this time of having farmed it as a guild before even arriving here. Essentially, we came here expecting a lull before the "actual" vanilla content starts ramping up, which to many is BWL, and many others and myself personally, starts in AQ. Right now is just an endurance battle for all "big time" guilds to keep all the structure in place and build to a point where we get to enjoy our favorite bits of the game.

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I'm a big fan of the way it's being done in theory, just some of the execution has been poor; i.e. my earlier example of Dal'Rends for every melee class..... If we went one step further removed and didn't have so much communication and foreknowledge about the game, overall people would probably be putting together much crappier gear sets and be doing even worse.
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Re: Dire Maul release

by Botanist » Sat May 30, 2015 6:57 am

nervous wrote:
Rafale wrote:When i see that i'm thinking about a little boy receiving a gift from his parents, not for his birthday, just a free lovely gift. Lets imagine a cake. The parents told the boy they gonna make a chocolate cake but they can't make it cause no chocolate in the shop yesterday. The boy is crying.

You are the minority part of players, which can't play a game without eating it like a cake. I hate u. Thx devs for your work. This is awesome.


Terrible analogy. F- see me after class

Pretend you're cruising on pornhub looking for some vanilla pornographic videos. It appears there is only one video uploaded, but it's got tons of views so you know it's probably gonna be good. The description even has tags that say "double-anal", "grinding", and "deepthroat", which is of course, all you're into. You've been watching those kinds of videos for years.

So you load up the video and it's just buffering. Which is cool, everyone expects buffering. About 30 minutes into buffering you load it up and it starts playing out. Great,another pizza delivery boy setup? You even recognize the actors, you've seen this setup a bunch of different times, but you continue watching because it's the double anal scene you're really interested in. After watching 10 minutes of the poorly written introduction there it is, "THERE HAS BEEN AN ERROR IN LOADING YOUR VIDEO". Well great, now you have to refresh and rebuffer the video. You could check on another site for this type of video, but the only other site has been taken down because no one uses it because this site claimed to have a really awesome cowgirl scene.

So you refresh the video and get to the part where the video crashed last time and your asshole puckers with anticipation, the dudes gonna open the door to the house and sell his big meat lovers pizza to this hot chick, and you're finally going to see the video in it's entirety.

The actor opens the door and you begin to notice that the video quality has dropped to like 240p. You can barely make out a garbled "can I pay you in some other way?" before you see the dreaded "THERE HAS BEEN AN ERROR IN LOADING YOUR VIDEO" message again.

Now at this point you're pretty frustrated. You check in the comments section to see if anyone else has commented on these problems and a few people do, but they are overshadowed by tons of other viewers saying "ITS FREE WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? ARE YOU PAYING FOR THIS?" "WHY DO YOU WANT TO SKIP THE INTRODUCTION SCENE? ITS THE BEST PART OF THE VIDEO. IF YOU GET TO THE ERROR PART JUST REWATCH THE INTRO SCENE AGAIN" and "I CAN'T BELIEVE THE ATTITUDE OF PORN WATCHERS THESE DAYS. THERE ARE OTHER PORN SITES YOU CAN VISIT AND YOU'RE FREE TO LEAVE" (knowing full well that the idea of going to another porn site with the same video and having to wait for that one to buffer when you've invested so much of your time already buffering this one is just plain stupid.)

So you get on the website's help chat or whatever and speak to a live representative about the video. "When can I expect it to be fully loaded? Or at least loaded up to the deepthroat scene?" The representative responds with a "check now :)" and you press the play button again and the pizza boy and the chick are fully clothed on the couch kissing but their faces are pixelated so you can't even enjoy that. But you know it's happening, and it's the content that matters, right?

You get back on the help chat and ask the representative for a ballparked estimate of when you can expect the stuff you actually came here to see will be available and are met with silence.

Some of us don't want to buffer that video for an unknown amount of hours just to get a dry humping scene with all of the clothes on, we have other things we would rather be wasting our time on than watching the buffer bar crawl to the right, but we would vastly prefer to watch some actual vanilla money shots.

So here we sit, blue and purple weapons in hand, until we get an answer on when we can expect the actual stuff we came here for.




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Re: Dire Maul release

by Lazermon » Sat May 30, 2015 7:57 am

Badtank wrote:
Lazermon wrote:@mobi

This isn't a question of whether the items should be in or not, the itemid from wowhead solved that little issue last time we had that discussion. This is an issue of not being able to find the 1.3 stats for x amount of items, as you yourself noted, you couldn't dig them up. I've tried myself too, and haven't found a way.



Yet another good reason to cut this nerfed item bullshit out. It's stupid and not even serving its original purpose. At this point it is going to straight up start driving people away faster then anything else. Do we have a list of these fucking items? Because I really don't want to go help my rouges grind for muggers belt only to find out after 20 runs its not even in the god damn game.


Just gonna paste what I PMed to the admins 20 days ago, the allakhazam links are broken but i CBA fixing that, this is mainly to show you what items are missing.
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DIRE MAUL - MISSING ITEMS

Bulky Iron Spaulders[18493]
Denwatcher's Shoulders[18494]
Cyclone Spaulders[18528]
Flamescarred Shoulders[18374]
Bile-etched Spaulders[18384]
Stoneshatter[18388]
Satyr's Bow[18323]
Eldritch Reinforced Legplates[18380]
Silvermoon Leggings[18378]
Padre's Trousers[18386]
Leggings of Destruction[18524]
Felhide Cap[18325]
Fervent Helm[18319]
Helm of Awareness[18313]
Insightful Hood[18490]
Scarab Plate Helm[18480]
Observer's Shield[18485]
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What's up with:
Magically Sealed Bracers[18351]? (can be queried with atlasloot) no stats?
Vigilance Charm[18370]? (can be queried with atlasloot) no stats?
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(the items below can be found in wayback allakhazam in the timeframe between patch 1.3 and patch 1.4, not really relevant though since the itemid is all whats needed to prove that)

Belts
http://web.archive.org/web/200504061830 ... name6.html
Hyena Hide Belt[18451]
Mugger's Belt[18505]
Oddly Magical Belt[18475]
Warpwood Binding[18393]

Trinkets
http://web.archive.org/web/200504160035 ... ame12.html
Mindtap Talisman[18371]
Counterattack Lodestone[18537]

Necks
http://web.archive.org/web/200504240428 ... name2.html
Eidolon Talisman[18340]
Evil Eye Pendant[18381]

Rings
http://web.archive.org/web/200504160027 ... ame11.html
Emerald Flame Ring[18395]
Gordok Nose Ring[18464]
Band of the Ogre King[18522]
Band of Vigor[18302]
Ring of Demonic Potency[18315]

Chest
http://web.archive.org/web/200504220453 ... name5.html
Chestplate of Tranquility[18373]

Back
http://web.archive.org/web/200504240411 ... ame16.html
Hide of the Wild[18510]

Finally, all of the items from Lord Hel'nurath seem to have item id 18xxx:
Fel Hardened Bracers[18754]
Diabolic Mantle[18757]
Xorothian Firestick[18755]
Dreadguard's Protector[18756]
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Re: Dire Maul release

by Faleene » Sat May 30, 2015 9:13 am

But... but... Lazermon...


If they added these items just think of how trivial the content would be!
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