Alterac Valley pre-nerf available on PTR

[Xylon666Darkstar]

Will the pre-nerf AV include it's Rich Thorium Veins and herbs(silversage, dreamfoil, icecap) before they were removed like original AV?

[Badtank]

Will the item buff be up at the same time?

[Normander01]

With this coming up this weekend. Blacklisted would love to work out a set time so that we may 40v40 with the horde. Is any horde guild interested? PM me here. So that we may retest all of the quests and events, items and proper honor/rep gains. (Those selected for testing)

[Alexpulos]

Sorry if this is a duplicate but when was alterac nerfed and what does the pre nerf entail if i may ask? Thanks!

[nervous]

It's available to guilds and only guilds? In particular, guilds that grief, are absolute cunts and guilds that have exploited more than once, and also guilds that just make everyone's life miserable? No, that's ok. I'm sure grizzly and ridin dirty will do an excellent job at testing :)

How many bugs have you reported and documented with evidence?

Maybe you should spend less time accusing guilds of exploiting without evidence and more time not sucking at 32 year old video games.

[Plask]

Just wanna tell my opinion regarding the players that get access to the testrealm. With a server that supports 8k players I think it wouldnt hurt to allow every raidguild to test the raidcontent. Right now several guilds are being shut out and the guilds with access does gain an unintended advantage when it comes to progression. Once BWL is released the guilds that ran it on the testrealm know what works and what doesn't. Just look at MC atm, it has some bugs which can cause wipes because the script isnt working properly.

I'll also refer to how it was in retail, where everyone could access the testrealm. However, I don't think its reasonable to allow every single player onto the testrealm but I atleast think it would be reasonable to allow every raiding guild to test out the content in order to promote a healthy competition among the guilds.

Edit: Also is there any reason there is more horde guilds that have access?

[skyracer500]

It's available to guilds and only guilds? In particular, guilds that grief, are absolute cunts and guilds that have exploited more than once, and also guilds that just make everyone's life miserable? No, that's ok. I'm sure grizzly and ridin dirty will do an excellent job at testing

How many bugs have you reported and documented with evidence?

Maybe you should spend less time accusing guilds of exploiting without evidence and more time not sucking at 32 year old video games.

Didn't realize niller wow is 32 years old! What betas have you taken part in that you actually reported stuff? Considering I have been wanting to relive prenerf AV for YEARS, I want it to be absolutely perfect. With ridin dirty involved, there is no such thing as perfection. I've played since this servers release and both grizzly and dirty are living jokes.

My point is that joke guilds like these two shouldn't be some of the only ones included, so mind your damn opinion.

[Plask]

It's available to guilds and only guilds? In particular, guilds that grief, are absolute cunts and guilds that have exploited more than once, and also guilds that just make everyone's life miserable? No, that's ok. I'm sure grizzly and ridin dirty will do an excellent job at testing

How many bugs have you reported and documented with evidence?

Maybe you should spend less time accusing guilds of exploiting without evidence and more time not sucking at 32 year old video games.

Didn't realize niller wow is 32 years old! What betas have you taken part in that you actually reported stuff? Considering I have been wanting to relive prenerf AV for YEARS, I want it to be absolutely perfect. With ridin dirty involved, there is no such thing as perfection. I've played since this servers release and both grizzly and dirty are living jokes.

My point is that joke guilds like these two shouldn't be some of the only ones included, so mind your damn opinion.

I still think the biggest issue isn't what guilds are testing the content, the biggest issue is that they are the only ones that actually can.

[riq and snog]

9 k players, alterac pre 1.8, i think i just jizzed ma pants.

Clarification to the guy asking
Nerfed av
- Ressource / aka timer
- weaksouce npcs
- less npcs
- nerfed / deleted reinforcements

Super Av
- Ends at the death of a leader, Vandar/Drek
-Crazy npcs
- a lot of them
- Air support, cavallery, ultimate turtlebreaker (Ice lord an that treedude)
- siege vehicles aka goblin shredders
- in order to progress need to take out bunkers towers mines otherwise there will be alot of cleaving elite npcs wrecking your boss kill attempt.

[skyracer500]

Plask, that is actually what I was trying to say, but it's just putting salt on the wound with allowing two guilds that don't care (and will most likely attempt to screw up) to participate but not someone like samich's guild. Frostwolf clan has a lot of people ready to test it. Either way, let's just hope they all actually want to test it!