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Re: 5 months already!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:58 pm
by AverageJoe
Great post, Viper. Informative as always.

Really looking forward to the updated timeline and what the communications team can bring to the table. I've enjoyed this server so much, I hope it continues to flourish.

Re: 5 months already!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:00 pm
by Trum
Cousy wrote:
Honestly, so many people on this forum are awful. Half the replies to this thread already are people who are trying to tear down the very post they've been waiting for the admins to bring. Stop biting the hand that feeds you and maybe it will feed you more.



Yes, we just have to /clap them and shut up, the server don't have any problems.

Re: 5 months already!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:02 pm
by Bazinga
Badtank wrote:
Armilus wrote:
Aklol wrote:Still not apologizing for blaming guilds that tested for a bad AV release or the mistake of banning 3 premade leaders for a week for using a vanilla-era addon? Quite frankly, I'm disappointed.


The ability to queue as a group was removed from the NPC's. They happened to miss one API function that would allow addons to automatically queue a group without confirmation dialog. You used an addon from vanilla wow that was created at a point when group queueing for AV was possible.

If the only way to queue as a group was with an addon, did it not occur to you that maybe you shouldn't be able to queue as a group? The fact that you could with this addon was obviously a bug and none of the people using it reported it, instead they chose to exploit it.

Maybe it just happened to be a coincidence that everyone who was exploiting this was also invited to test on the PTR, maybe it wasn't. Either way, they trusted your guild enough to give you access to the PTR and report any bugs that you found. At some point you found this bug, whether it was on the PTR or after release and chose to exploit it instead. If I was them, I'd be pissed. It seems to me that they exercised a shit load of restraint by only issuing a 1 week ban on the raid leaders. It could have easily been a lot more people.



Can you stop this shit, please? It was not an exploit, it was not some secret witchcraft vodoo. It was a ten year old addon that has been used forever. Stop trying to frame an agenda, it just makes you look silly.



All this transparency is nice but do you have any plans to address some of the things affecting the server like herb nodes or the lack of fishing/seasonal/darkmoon decks? If not is the new community task force going to be doing that sort of thing going forward?


better you guys stop talk about shit like that or they have to lock/move their own thread

Re: 5 months already!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:02 pm
by Mobi
I don't wanna get into this, but queuing as a group using the script or addon in retail queued everyone as individuals. On nost it queued people actually as a group, it was deemed an exploit because they knew it was group queuing them. While they may have been ignorant of how it worked on retail, since the default interface prohibits it they should have known better than to use it without simultaneously putting in a ticket. You can still queue as individuals together in voice comm.

If the sanctions were appropriate I don't even want to get into that discussion, but I did see footage of one of the guys acting like a total dick to the GM, so as a former GM on another server its hard for me to feel remotely sorry for them, since that kind of behavior would be considered disrespect to staff and sanction-able where I was (though we tolerated quite a bit of it, that's aside the point).

Re: 5 months already!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:03 pm
by notgunnahappen
Badtank wrote:
All this transparency is nice but do you have any plans to address some of the things affecting the server like herb nodes or the lack of fishing/seasonal/darkmoon decks? If not is the new community task force going to be doing that sort of thing going forward?


Fishing is ZG patch, darkmoon decks are BWL patch, besides childrens week (which happened already) the first seasonal event was Hallow's End which was Emerald Dragons patch.

All you ever post here is either whining or bitching, and you're so flustered all the time you don't even check facts before half your rants.

Settle the fuck down

Re: 5 months already!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:06 pm
by Badtank
notgunnahappen wrote:
Badtank wrote:
All this transparency is nice but do you have any plans to address some of the things affecting the server like herb nodes or the lack of fishing/seasonal/darkmoon decks? If not is the new community task force going to be doing that sort of thing going forward?


Fishing is ZG patch, darkmoon decks are BWL patch, besides childrens week (which happened already) the first seasonal event was Hallow's End which was Emerald Dragons patch.

All you ever post here is either whining or bitching, and you're so flustered all the time you don't even check facts before half your rants.

Settle the fuck down


I'm aware of when they where put in on retail but according to nost's timeline they are 2 months overdue. Try to use even the most basic grasp of self awareness, I know it's hard but you just have to try.


Edit: I don't feel like making a new post. http://nsa33.casimages.com/img/2014/10/ ... 453744.jpg
"Darkmoon Fair and Fishing Event will be available in the first 3 months."

Re: 5 months already!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:11 pm
by notgunnahappen
Badtank wrote:
notgunnahappen wrote:
Badtank wrote:
All this transparency is nice but do you have any plans to address some of the things affecting the server like herb nodes or the lack of fishing/seasonal/darkmoon decks? If not is the new community task force going to be doing that sort of thing going forward?


Fishing is ZG patch, darkmoon decks are BWL patch, besides childrens week (which happened already) the first seasonal event was Hallow's End which was Emerald Dragons patch.

All you ever post here is either whining or bitching, and you're so flustered all the time you don't even check facts before half your rants.

Settle the fuck down


I'm aware of when they where put in on retail but according to nost's timeline they are 2 months overdue. Try to use even the most basic grasp of self awareness, I know it's hard but you just have to try.


And they'll obviously come with their respective major patch???? Try and grasp basic understandings before requesting random game features.

Re: 5 months already!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:14 pm
by Norjak
Viper wrote:Giving a restricted access to the PTR gave us higher quality feedback than the feedback we could have gotten during Test sessions prior to the server release. On the other hand, a lot of complaints from all of the non-allowed guilds were addressed creating an elitist concept which was not good for the community. As a consequence, our next PTR session will be accessible for all players with a level 60 character with strict rules regarding how issues will be reported.


I appreciate all your hard work in creating this server. However, restricting PvP battleground testing to top raiding guilds doesn't make sense. Top raiding guilds would give the best feedback for new raids such as BWL. Regardless, a lot of bugs were apparently unaddressed prior to AV release which is the most troubling part. It might be better to fix the bugs prior to releasing the content. As always, communication with the player community is valuable.

Re: 5 months already!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:16 pm
by Kaleidoscope
Badtank is one of those people that make a MMORPG his whole life and when things doesnt go his way he cries and cries and cries....


Wow and i though we have moved past the era of entitled cry babies from the past, seems that the WoW community is getting worse and worse and worse by every year that goes by and its sad really.

How you even allowed to have a pc badtank?, you might wanna grow up before you bite the hand that feeds you like cousy said.


Viper took his time to post this and also i understand why they dont respond or post info is cuz of people like you insult them every fucking moment they get.

Re: 5 months already!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:20 pm
by Thefilth
If you don't voice your complaints the devs will never know that you're not happy. We're not paying customers, so they're free to do as they please with no consequence.

Still, AV is crap. What's particularly awful about it is that it didn't start out crap. It started out reasonably good and became very good. Then came mines and Field of Strife armies and it all went to shit.
This wouldn't be a big problem if it wasn't for the fact that alot of players already completed the rep grind while the content was playable, even enjoyably so.
Now those of us who are not yet exalted have the worst grind ahead of us in unenjoyable content, just to get our hands on an offhand.

Raise your hand if you play AV for fun! Noone? Oh. Maybe being oneshot by any of the thousands of hostile NPCs that currently inhabit AV wasn't as fun as blizzard originally thought. Perhaps that's why they changed it. Who knows?