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Re: Blizzard meeting scheduled

by Botmaster5 » Mon May 16, 2016 2:09 pm

Imbaslap wrote:bring Pottu with you guys so he can moderate blizzard. ;)

Takaminara wrote:Please no he censors like a true nazi...


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Re: Blizzard meeting scheduled

by Thefilth » Mon May 16, 2016 3:31 pm

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Blizzard meeting scheduled

only scheduled????! :shock: very slow!!!

are you (or Blizz) waiting until interest subsides???


This meeting takes place in the real world friend. Things move slowly there.

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Congratulations. I am looking forward to hearing about the meeting. I hope you guys eventually get hired by Blizzard, so you can get paid for the extreme number of manhours you've put into this whole thing.
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Re: Blizzard meeting scheduled

by Hydra9268 » Mon May 16, 2016 4:39 pm

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DO NOT WANT PRISTINE REALMS!!!
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Re: Blizzard meeting scheduled

by smilkovpetko » Mon May 16, 2016 4:42 pm

huertakas wrote:Nostalrius' developers will argue that:
- many vanilla bugs have been fixed by Nostalrius already, including within-emulation exploits


Speaking of realistic side , this is not true at all.
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Re: Blizzard meeting scheduled

by Bozizo » Mon May 16, 2016 4:54 pm

I have my hopes on you Nostalrius you will save the wow community.!
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Re: Blizzard meeting scheduled

by Mage21 » Mon May 16, 2016 5:21 pm

Kikeron wrote:
huertakas wrote:Don't go fooling yourselves, this will be an intense developer discussion, fueled by business strategy versus non-profit strategy.

Blizzards' developers will argue that:
- rewriting million lines of code for vanilla is required and too much work...
- game client 1.12.1 has too may bugs, security and performance flaws...
- that if the slow vanilla experience to 60 is good, the slow legion experience to lvl 110 should also be good...
...so Pristine is the only way to go.

Nostalrius' developers will argue that:
- emulation tackles any security argument, and performance is moot since the game is not CPU, memory or bandwidth heavy
- many vanilla bugs have been fixed by Nostalrius already, including within-emulation exploits
- that it's not just about the speed of leveling, but the tuning of all related content as well
...so Legacy servers are the only way to go.

It's hard to say at this point which side will win, but do not expect this to be an easy fight. I hope they can find common ground in understanding the elements that makes a vanilla player want to play.
- high effort to reward ratio
- rewards being tuned to keep the challenge
- content requiring team play
- PvP balance (often neglected)

TL,DR: Blizzard will argue the casual player (money), Nostalrius will argue the hardcore player (fun).


I agree with many of these. Vanilla is really worse than live. Class design, PvP balance etc. But stating hardcore is vanilla is wrong. If you compare how much more difficult is mythic raiding on live to vanilla raiding you would agree with me. Vanilla is for casual raiding. The leveling process is hard, yes. But this is not what is all about. It is a part of the game.

Nost must prove that there are people ready to pay for this. And please do not count people in this thread. It is not enough. And do not count people that are already subscribed at live and might get access to this thing (pristine with some sugar). It is not easy. At least I hope for them to find a job there.


Hard =/= hardcore
I would say Vanilla raiding is more hardcore then Retail... why? Because you need to spend ALOT more time to be able to raid and do desent.
Sure retail might have Mytic raiding that might be harder then vanilla raiding, but the time you need to play to be in a good naxx guild is extream.
A good player who plays casually (X Hours per week) could still be doing well in a good guild on retail
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Re: Blizzard meeting scheduled

by 1234a » Mon May 16, 2016 6:04 pm

Eu Blizzard will gonna meet US Blizzard in Irvine HQ :D
Hype guys!!!
Let the party started :lol:
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Re: Blizzard meeting scheduled

by ShiroNoHikage » Mon May 16, 2016 6:44 pm

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Re: Blizzard meeting scheduled

by Heldunder » Mon May 16, 2016 9:29 pm

i for one would enjoy playing both a pristine legion AND a vanilla server.

why not both?

but if i have to pick, i would pick vanilla/legacy servers.
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Re: Blizzard meeting scheduled

by Raknax » Mon May 16, 2016 10:36 pm

I cannot wait, hopefully they settle on bringing back legacy servers.
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