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Re: 1.4 Pre-BiS Guide for All Classes

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:01 am
by res
arrows wrote:Because I have to give grief when I can.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mantle+of+lost+hope

Looks like it was added in 1.11.1 (check the quick facts tab on the right)


Hey, I actually did look them up on wowwiki but they had no info about when lord roccor / the item was added. If you're referring to wowhead they don't record anything before patch 1.11.1 so EVERYTHING from earlier patches says its added in patch 1.11.1 according to wowhead.

Thanks anyway, we eventually solved the mystery!

Re: 1.4 Pre-BiS Guide for All Classes

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:17 pm
by Keftenk
Following the Druid HEP values for pre-T2 gear:

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Heal=1 MP5=4 INT=.6 SPI=.3 CRIT=7.5 STA=.2


* Crown of the Penitent should be BiS (over Green Lens of Healing).
* Skyshroud Leggings should be BiS (over Leggings of Arcana).

Great work! I'm shocked to see no crit gear in 1.4. What a sad patch :(

Re: 1.4 Pre-BiS Guide for All Classes

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:22 pm
by Kurthos
Keftenk wrote:Following the Druid HEP values for pre-T2 gear:

Code: Select all
Heal=1 MP5=4 INT=.6 SPI=.3 CRIT=7.5 STA=.2


* Crown of the Penitent should be BiS (over Green Lens of Healing).
* Skyshroud Leggings should be BiS (over Leggings of Arcana).

Great work! I'm shocked to see no crit gear in 1.4. What a sad patch :(


Thanks for this! I was actually struggling to HEP values for Druid anywhere.

Re: 1.4 Pre-BiS Guide for All Classes

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:03 pm
by arrows
Props for all the work you put into that. Just a quick note, Hunter is missing the second trinket.

Thanks again!

Re: 1.4 Pre-BiS Guide for All Classes

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:38 pm
by Kurthos
arrows wrote:Props for all the work you put into that. Just a quick note, Hunter is missing the second trinket.

Thanks again!


Hunters dont really have another trinket to use. I could give you Hand of Justice for the 22 AP, but I dont think that is appropriate.

Re: 1.4 Pre-BiS Guide for All Classes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:58 am
by shakey
I have an idea.

The option to see what items in the list for each slot is better than T1 stats? ("bis pre bwl")

Re: 1.4 Pre-BiS Guide for All Classes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:58 am
by Kurthos
I plan on updating this sheet with a Pre BWL BiS list when we have a better idea of what is dropping out of MC and Onyxia.

Re: 1.4 Pre-BiS Guide for All Classes

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:01 pm
by DarkPhenomenon
Great doc man, but just a heads up, holy priests are missing ranged weapons!

Re: 1.4 Pre-BiS Guide for All Classes

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:32 am
by Sethzer
fantastic job!


Some items have slightly different stats ingame that I've seen (mainly from Warlock sheet).

sheet stat mentioned first and ingame stat after:
Bad Mojo Mask: 14dmg --> 10dmg
Felcloth Shoulders: 18dmg --> 17dmg
Robe of Winter Night: 38dmg --> 37dmg
Shadoweave Gloves: 12dmg --> 11dmg
Felcloth Pants: 18dmg --> 17dmg

There are more but just those that I checked so far.

In addition, I'm pretty sure that Green Lens, Drakestone and Archivist Cape does not have +dmg suffix versions ingame atm, as no other item (both random green and specific blues that has random statroll) that can roll those exist currently.

Re: 1.4 Pre-BiS Guide for All Classes

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:36 pm
by applescruffs
Looking at the holy priest list, I noticed that Hands of the Exalted Herald are currently on the spreadsheet with their 1.4 patch value.

On the server right now, this is their stat line, no bonus healing yet.

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