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Re: Info about classes' value

by smilkovpetko » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:19 pm

Ana wrote:Why do people keep claiming that Golemagg is a single target fight?



Because indeed it is Tank/Spank 1 Target Fight and only terrible Guild/Pugs will allow someone to DPS dogs.
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Re: Info about classes' value

by Deitus » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:10 pm

Ana wrote:Why do people keep claiming that Golemagg is a single target fight?


Oh dear... :oops:
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Re: Info about classes' value

by Ana » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:26 pm

Well Duki kindly provided this raid link http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... t=16012806
in which we read:

Enemy units:

82%(826.8k) Golemagg the Incinerator(Boss)
18%(177.7k) Core Rager(Add)


So yes. People totally don't ever dps the dogs for the purpose of getting higher on the meters. Not at all. :)
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Re: Info about classes' value

by smilkovpetko » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:27 pm

Ana wrote:Well Duki kindly provided this raid link http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... t=16012806
in which we read:

Enemy units:

82%(826.8k) Golemagg the Incinerator(Boss)
18%(177.7k) Core Rager(Add)


So yes. People totally don't ever dps the dogs for the purpose of getting higher on the meters. Not at all. :)


http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Golemagg_the_Incinerator

If the dogs health is reduced below 50% they will emote a message "Core Rager refuses to die while its master is in trouble" and regen to full health.



Or that is the damage by offtanks who are offtanking Dogs few steps away from Boss and nobody is allowed to dps them except offtanks.

Every single report shows similar damage done toward Core Rager (which mean Dogs damage by Offtanks and only Offtanks) .

Perhaps you should stop trashtalking nonsense.

you are gonna tell me next is that : http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 86&Fight=7
This and every single Guild killing dogs or dpsing them ? Right.

86%(826.5k) Golemagg the Incinerator(Boss)
14%(135.3k) Core Rager(Add)


or yeah the so mighty guild NOPE
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 95&Fight=7
81%(826.6k) Golemagg the Incinerator(Boss)
19%(199.4k) Core Rager(Add)


i doubt they will allow someone to dps Dogs .
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Re: Info about classes' value

by Ana » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:37 pm

--Snip--
Last edited by Leythia on Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:20 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Off topic & Insults
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Re: Info about classes' value

by smilkovpetko » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:52 pm

Ana wrote:Yes, fight lasts 50 seconds, both offtanks do 100k damage each. 2k dps from each offtank. Absolutely.

- edited by Killerduki - Tone down your Insults


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDHVsB5sBx0

Let see how much people DPS Dogs there....

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Re: Info about classes' value

by Ana » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:10 pm

If you weren't impaired you would notice them doing a total of 68k damage to the dogs in this fight. As opposed to, say, 200k.
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Re: Info about classes' value

by Theloras » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:26 pm

Reposting this again since Ana completely ignored me...

no it's cause you realize that your data parse was completely rigged up the ass in order to promote your own self delusional conclusions

so allow me to illuminate for the stupid and uninformed like you...

1. Every raiding guild on Nostalrius (Horde and Alliance) and every raiding guild back in actual Vanilla WoW had at least 3 Hunters for each BWL clear compared to...wait for it...wait for it...

2. There are MAYBE 5-10 Raiding Ret Paladins in BWL capable guilds on Nostalrius atm with appropriate levels of skill/gear in order to compete in a legitimate DPS race (cause our LOL Tier 1 and Tier 2 gear is absolute trash for DPS and any offset gear is given to Fury/Rogues automatically due to retarded mindsets like yours). Don't even get me started on Hunters taking Quick Strike Ring over all melee first...

3. Holystrike is the only raiding Ret Paladin in his guild which means that he is only putting up a single Judgement of the Crusader debuff which limits his +holy dmg. I was in his guild for a week to try and run double Ret with him but the "special people" running it had their heads up their asses and couldn't comprehend the idea of Judgement of the Crusader stacking

4. Holystrike (by his own admission) doesn't even TRY to DPS in BWL most raids. Your DPS parse specifically states, "Boss fight average is calculated by taking the 5 best performing(for the player) encounters out of the last 6 attended." So, what if he was healing only on a particular boss fight or over a particular raid clear in its entirety?

Want proof of #4 - just look at this:

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Ranki ... ssLimit=Pa

IM ON THERE FOR FUCK SAKE AS PROT SPEC AND SHOWING RAID ENCOUNTERS/BOSS FIGHTS ON WHICH ALL I DID WAS FUCKING HEAL!!!!
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Re: Info about classes' value

by Stumps » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:29 pm

Ana wrote:
--Snip--


And you're simply wrong. But hey, we can get you a bigger shovel if you want to keep digging. One log from one kill does not change the fact that they were doing it wrong. Golemagg is to all intents and purposes a single target fight. If anyone is DPSing the Core Ragers, they are following a flawed strategy. It serves no purpose, much like you insulting people who disagree with you.
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Re: Info about classes' value

by Theloras » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:32 pm

Stumps wrote:
Ana wrote:
--Snip--


And you're simply wrong. But hey, we can get you a bigger shovel if you want to keep digging. One log from one kill does not change the fact that they were doing it wrong. Golemagg is to all intents and purposes a single target fight. If anyone is DPSing the Core Ragers, they are following a flawed strategy. It serves no purpose, much like you insulting people who disagree with you.


+1 to you along with /shovel for Ana
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