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Re: In case you were thinking of starting over on Kronos...

by Theoloras » Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:19 am

unfortunately, it was on pretty much every mob and boss in each raid instance - including AQ20/40 on the PTR:

https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2871
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Re: In case you were thinking of starting over on Kronos...

by Theoloras » Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:26 am

Trixyy wrote:i love the fact that people are so tired of Theo and killerduky that they are hoping these bugs dont get fixed so they fuck off :lol:


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Re: In case you were thinking of starting over on Kronos...

by Theoloras » Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:54 pm

snawfu wrote:hey look its a theloras post : D

maybe you should make your own private server and fix these bugs and then be #1 dps retri paladin on the server there, actually take killerDooky with you he can be the tank


I forgot to reply to this yesterday - while on face value your attempt at trolling me is funny, I actually did look into starting up a private server back in 2014.

My idea was that while it would have a shop for players to purchase items, profits would be donated to charity in the hope that this might placate Blizzard from coming after me with either a DMCA shutdown order or a Cease and Desist.

I even went ahead and had a legal opinion drawn up to explore the possibility but regardless of profits going to charity, such a venture would be indeed a clear breech of copyright and since I live in Canada, I would be vulnerable to being sued by Blizzard:

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What you are proposing to do would involve a clear breach of contract, a violation of Canadian copyright law, and likely trade-mark infringement. Your intention to direct the proceeds to a charity is of no consequence.

Penalties for copyright infringement include civil and criminal sanctions pursuant to the Copyright Act. Breach of contract and trade-mark infringement would expose you to claims for damages and possibly injunctive relief. Though we cannot advise on US law, we suspect that your proposed actions may also expose you to civil and criminal sanctions in the United States and we are aware of similar circumstances in which foreign judgements for copyright infringement were successfully enforced in Canada.

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You asked that we consider your intention to host Blizzard Entertainment, Inc.’s (“Blizzard”) World of Warcraft ("WOW") on a private server and you detailed as follows: (a) users will be directed to reconfigure the WOW Game Client to connect to a private server rather than connect to Blizzard's servers; (b) content will be copied; (c) missing functionality will be reverse engineered; (d) the game will be promoted to prospective players as a WOW private server; and (e) proceeds from the venture will be directed to a charity.

Contractual Prohibitions

The WOW Terms of Service (“TOS”) and WOW End User License Agreement (“EULA”) expressly prohibit copying, reverse engineering, and any establishment or use of private servers. For your reference the TOS includes the following:

You agree that you will not, under any circumstances: …

E. host, provide or develop matchmaking services for the Game or the Service, or intercept, emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Blizzard in any way, for any purpose, including without limitation unauthorized play over the internet, network play, or as part of content aggregation networks;

F. facilitate, create or maintain any unauthorized connection to the Game or the Service, including without limitation (a) any connection to any unauthorized server that emulates, or attempts to emulate, the Service; and (b) any connection using programs or tools not expressly approved by Blizzard;…

The EULA includes the following:

You agree that you will not, under any circumstances:

A. in whole or in part, copy, photocopy, reproduce, translate, reverse engineer, derive source code from, modify, disassemble, decompile, or create derivative works based on the Game; provided, however, that you may make one (1) copy of the Game Client and the manuals that accompany it for archival purposes only;…

F. host, provide or develop matchmaking services for the Game or intercept, emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Blizzard in any way, for any purpose, including without limitation unauthorized play over the internet, network play, or as part of content aggregation networks;

G. facilitate, create or maintain any unauthorized connection to the Game or the Service, including without limitation (a) any connection to any unauthorized server that emulates, or attempts to emulate, the Service; and (b) any connection using programs or tools not expressly approved by Blizzard;…

Blizzard even takes the precaution of addressing emulation servers specifically in its World of Warcraft "Legal Facts" Q & A in which it states:

Blizzard Entertainment® does not support or condone network play of its games anywhere but Battle.net®. Specifically, you may not host or provide matchmaking services for any of our games or emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Blizzard Entertainment® in the network feature of its games, through protocol emulation, tunneling, modifying or adding components to the game(s), use of a utility program or any other techniques now known or hereafter developed, for any purpose including, but not limited to network play over the Internet, network play utilizing commercial or non-commercial gaming networks or as part of content aggregation networks without the prior written consent of Blizzard Entertainment®

Trade-mark Infringement

World of Warcraft is a registered trademark of Blizzard. Thus, any use of the trade-mark, or a confusingly similar trade-mark, in association with the sale, distribution or advertising of wares and services, would amount to a breach of the Trade-marks Act. Your plans to market the private server as a World of Warcraft private server would very likely amount to trade-mark infringement.

Copyright Infringement

To establish a claim of copyright infringement a plaintiff must prove that the defendant has taken a substantial part of a copyrighted work and that the copyrighted work was the source from which the allegedly infringing work was derived. There seems no doubt that your plans involve the reproduction of a substantial portion of WOW and that WOW is the source from which you will derive the infringing work.

As mentioned, penalties for copyright infringement include civil and criminal sanctions. While we see no need to exhaustively review the remedies which may be available to Blizzard pursuant to a breach of copyright under Canadian law, we thought it may be helpful to conclude our analysis by drawing your attention to section 42 of the Copyright Act which provides as follows with respect to criminal sanctions:

Every person who knowingly

(a) makes for sale or rental an infringing copy of a work or other subject-matter in which copyright subsists,

(b) sells or rents out, or by way of trade exposes or offers for sale or rental, an infringing copy of a work or other subject-matter in which copyright subsists,

(c) distributes infringing copies of a work or other subject-matter in which copyright subsists, either for the purpose of trade or to such an extent as to affect prejudicially the owner of the copyright,

(d) by way of trade exhibits in public an infringing copy of a work or other subject-matter in which copyright subsists, or

(e) imports for sale or rental into Canada any infringing copy of a work or other subject-matter in which copyright subsists

is guilty of an offence and liable

(f) on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding twenty-five thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to both, or

(g) on conviction on indictment, to a fine not exceeding one million dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or to both.
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Re: In case you were thinking of starting over on Kronos...

by Trixyy » Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:55 pm

Roooooooooooofl, such a sperg

And coooooombo breaker
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Re: In case you were thinking of starting over on Kronos...

by Theoloras » Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:58 pm

Trixyy wrote:Roooooooooooofl, such a sperg

And coooooombo breaker


it's the legal opinion from my lawyer you idiot
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Re: In case you were thinking of starting over on Kronos...

by mozibake » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:18 pm

Currently playing on Kronos to get away from the RETard crusade.

Look, no one actually cares if you want to gimp yourself as the shittiest melee dps ingame rather than the best healer ingame. More power to you. Just don't be so surprised and angry when the majority of people choose not to play your meme spec since the majority of people do not have crippling autism. People have been telling you this for at least the past year and you still don't seem to understand it. Even real classes had crippling class bugs exist for the entire lifetime of this server so sit the fuck down and get to the back of the line and wait your turn with your meme class. It's called triage, fixing blade flurry or impact which affects 90% of rogues and mages comes before fixing whatever it is you're crying about that affects two salty autismlords on the forums and literally no one else.
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Re: In case you were thinking of starting over on Kronos...

by smilkovpetko » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:16 pm

mozibake wrote:Currently playing on Kronos to get away from the RETard crusade.

Look, no one actually cares if you want to gimp yourself as the shittiest melee dps ingame rather than the best healer ingame. More power to you. Just don't be so surprised and angry when the majority of people choose not to play your meme spec since the majority of people do not have crippling autism. People have been telling you this for at least the past year and you still don't seem to understand it. Even real classes had crippling class bugs exist for the entire lifetime of this server so sit the fuck down and get to the back of the line and wait your turn with your meme class. It's called triage, fixing blade flurry or impact which affects 90% of rogues and mages comes before fixing whatever it is you're crying about that affects two salty autismlords on the forums and literally no one else.


Look, no one actually cares if you want to gimp yourself as the shittiest melee dps ingame rather than the best healer ingame.


No one actually cares if you don't like the way we play and try to fix bugged stuffs.

Just don't be so surprised and angry when the majority of people choose not to play your meme spec since the majority of people do not have crippling autism.


They suffer from Autistic people like you that deny their choice and will to play different than your "believes".

People have been telling you this for at least the past year and you still don't seem to understand it.


Germans in 1945 been telling everyone what to do and how to live their lives, Soviets in 1980 been telling everyone the same and you still don't seem to understand it.

Even real classes had crippling class bugs exist for the entire lifetime of this server so sit the fuck down and get to the back of the line and wait your turn with your meme class.


Not even close to Game Breaking bugs such as Paladin bugs and amount of them.

It's called triage, fixing blade flurry or impact which affects 90% of rogues and mages comes before fixing whatever it is you're crying about that affects two salty autismlords on the forums and literally no one else.


2 bugs which are not even Game Breaking and you are calling us "Crying" which over 15 Paladin and 5 Game Breaking bugs affect 100% of the Paladins in the Game as subject.
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Re: In case you were thinking of starting over on Kronos...

by mozibake » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:41 pm

Are you seriously comparing bugs existing on a fake server for a 30 year old game about killing dragons to the holocaust or to 80 years of socialist rule? Do you have any idea how massively insulting that is to the millions of people of every nationality who died fighting against Nazism so that you could live in freedom to sit in a basement and make moronic posts comparing their sacrifice to bugs for a spec that three people play existing on a private server? Your delusion has seriously reached heights I didn't think were possible.

I also like how you purposely elect not to quote where I said I don't give a shit if you want to play a meme spec, and then act as if I said you should be sent to the gas chamber for wanting to. Your constant tactic of pretending to be a victim of some kind of racist anti-paladin conspiracy is tiring and disingenuous. The rest of your post(s) is stupid and not worth addressing and also barely understandable with your 3rd grade level of English.
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Re: In case you were thinking of starting over on Kronos...

by mozibake » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:51 pm

Also the impact bug was HUGELY game breaking. It rendered an entire spec (PvP Frostfire) completely unplayable. Which sounds similar, except that that spec was actually amazing when it wasn't bugged and isn't just a joke spec that's gimped even when everything works.

Don't get me wrong, ret is really good and quite useful to have around in TBC and afterwards. It's just garbage in vanilla and I don't understand why you'd want to play it. But if you do want to play it for whatever reason, go ahead, I can't stop you. You are free to do so, just as serious raiders are free to refuse to bring you along since you chose to play a non-optimal spec. Freedom goes both ways, it's not just a buzzword to be shouted when people refuse to accommodate your special snowflake needs.
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Re: In case you were thinking of starting over on Kronos...

by Dr. Doom » Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:38 pm

Nazis vs Ret Paladins, the film.
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