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[GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants - EDITED

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:24 pm
by St0rfan
EDIT #4 (2019-04-21): Made changes on some gear recommendations, added some and removed others due to research, more theory crafting and an over-all changes in the 1.12.1 warrior META over the last couple of years.The list in its current state has been adapted to fit 1.12.1 gearing choices. If Classic wow ends up using progressive itemization, disregard some of the items listed.

The protection META of vanilla has gone through a big shift, away from the old way of thinking about defense and the mis-guided gospel of the def-cap. This is no longer considered the main priority. Focus Lies in balancing EHP/Health pool (basically a mix of defensive stats and health) along side with a higher focus on threat capabilities.

Due to the re-occuring threads on the forum asking for this I thought I'd compose a list of gear-suggestions for Pre-Raid protection warriors. The items are listed in order of value meaning higher up the list is better. Some items can be moved up and down the lists depending on other gear choices.
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Specs and talents:
- Standard Prot build (11/5/35)
- Higher TPS impale build (17/3/31)
- Maximum TPS possible build (3/31/17) (The point of this build is to tank in dualwield, spamming BT, Sunder, Revenge and HS to build as much threat as possible). - Mainly recommended for high-end professional players with very good healers, proper consumable usage and worldbuffs.

Note: Anger Management adds a passive 1 rage per 3 seconds tick when in combat, a bonus that was present in vanilla but not added to the tooltip (an oversight by Blizzard). This is an INCREDIBLY powerful talent.

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GEAR:

Helms:
- Enchanted Thorium Helm (BoE, Crafted with BS)
- Helm of Valor (Darkmaster Gandling, Scholomance)
- Gyth's Skull (Gyth, UBRS)
- Golem Skull Helm (Magmus, BRD)

Necks:
- Verek's Collar (Verek, BRD-vault)
- Evil Eye Pendant (Immolthar, DM-West)
- Medallion of Grand Marshal Morris (BoE)

Shoulders:
- Stockade Pauldrons (BoE)
- Spaulders of Valor (Rend, UBRS)
- Bulky Iron Spaulders (Mol'Dar and Slip'kik, DM-North)
- Bile-etched Spaulders (Immolthar, DM-West)

Cloaks:
- Redoubt Cloak (Gordok Tribute chest, DM-North)
- Shifting Cloak (BoE, Crafted with LW)
- Stoneskin Gargoyle Cape (Stonespine, rare, Strat-UD)
- The Emperor's New Cape (Emperor, BRD)
- Cloak of Warding (BoE, Crafted with tailoring)

Chests:
- Enchanted Thorium Breastplate (BoE, Crafted with BS)
- Ornate Adamantium Breastplate (Quest reward)
- Deathbone Chestplate (Several bosses, Scholo)
- Kromcrush's Chestplate (Kromcrush, DM-North)
- Breastplate of Valor (General Drakkisath, UBRS)

Bracers:
- Bracers of Might (BoE)
- Fel Hardened Bracers (Summoned warlock dreadsteed-quest boss in DM-West)
- Vigorsteel Vambraces (Darkmaster Gandling, Scholo)
- Bracers of Valor (BoE)

Gloves:
- Stonegrip Gauntlets (BoE)
- Force Imbued Gauntlets (Illyanna Ravenoak, DM-West)
- Cragfists of the Bear/Monkey (Ancient Stone Keeper, Ulduaman)

Belt:
- Belt of Might (BoE)
- Stalwart Clutch (Quest reward, Burning Steppes)
- Belt of Valor (BoE)

Legs:
- Enchanted Thorium Leggings (BoE, Crafted with BS)
- Slagplate Leggings (Quest reward, Searing Gorge)
- Warmaster Legguards (Rend, UBRS)
- Wraithplate Leggings (Jandice Barov, Scholo)

Boots:
- Boots of Avoidance (BoE)
- Boots of Valor (Kirtonos the Herald, Scholo)
- Master Cannoneer Boots (Cannon Master Willey, Strat-living)
- Shalehusk Boots (Panzor the Invincible, rare in BRD)
- Eschewal Greaves (Quest reward, Orgrimmar/Teldrassil)

Ring #1:
- Don Julio's Band (AV-exalted)
- Myrmidon's Signet (BoE)
- Drakeclaw Band of the Monkey/Stamina (Patroling Drakes, Sunken Temple)
- Band of Flesh (Ramstein, Strat-UD)

Ring #2:
- Don Julio's Band (AV-exalted)
- Myrmidon's Signet (BoE)
- Drakeclaw Band of the Monkey/Stamina (Patroling Drakes, Sunken Temple)
- Band of Flesh (Ramstein, Strat-UD)

Trinket #1:
- Mark of the Chosen (Quest reward, Desolace)
- Force of Will (General Angerforge, BRD)
- Frostwolf Insignia Rank 6 (Quest reward/Exalted AV-faction)
- Vigilance Charm (Immolthar, DM-West)

Trinket #2:
- Mark of the Chosen (Quest reward, Desolace)
- Force of Will (General Angerforge, BRD)
- Frostwolf Insignia Rank 6 (Quest reward/Exalted AV-faction)
- Vigilance Charm (Immolthar, DM-West)

Trinket #3 (Threat trinkets)
- Hand of Justice (Emperor, BRD)
- Diamond Flask (Quest reward, lvl50 warrior quest in ST). Used for fights lasting around 1min.
- Blackhand's Breadth (Quest reward, UBRS).
- Rune of the Guard Captain (Quest reward, Jintha'alor, Hinterlands) HORDE ONLY!

Weapons:
- Quel'Serrar (Quest reward, Foror's Compendium from Dire Maul book with the same name).
- Ironfoe (Emperor, BRD)
- Timeworn Mace (Prince Tortheldrin, DM-West)
- Bone Slicing Hatchet (Maleki the Pallid, Strat-UD)
- Hedgecutter (Guard Mol'Dar or Guard Slip-kik, DM-North)
- Mirah's Song (Quest reward, Scholo).
- Thrash Blade (Quest reward, Desolace/Maraudon).

Shields:
- The Immovable Object (AV-exalted)
- Draconian Deflector (General Drakkisath, UBRS)
- Barrier Shield (Gordok Tribute chest, DM-North)

Ranged:
- Satyr's Bow (Zevrim Thornhoof, DM-East)
- Gorewood Bow (Quest reward, EPL)
- Carapace Spine Crossbow (Nerub'enkan, Strat-UD)
- Willey's Portable Howitzer (Cannon Master Willey, Strat-living)


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ENCHANTS:

Recommended enhants for each slot varies depending on play-style, role (MT, OT), speed of weapon, content being done etc but here is what I recommend in each slot:

Head:
+100hp (Libram of Constitution)
+1% Dodge (Libram of Protection)

Shoulders:
+5 all resistances (Require Argent Dawn exalted)
+5 Fire resistance

Cloak:
+7 Fire resistance (Depends on content being done).
+3 agi (Dodge, crit and a tiny bit of armor.
+70 armor

Chest:
+4 all stats
+100hp

Bracers:
+9 stamina

Gloves:
+7 agi

Legs:
+100hp (Libram of Constitution)
+1% Dodge (Libram of Protection)

Boots:
+8% runspeed
+7 stamina

Weapon
- Crusader (overall best choice because of the threat potential
+15 agi (0,75% crit and 0,75% dodge and a tiny bit of armor. Good for a defensive purpose weapon if you got several)

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BONUS SECTION: AoE Tanking (pre-raid).

Helm:
- Electromagnetic Gigaflux Reactivator (Mekgineer Thermaplugg, Gnomeregan). Great for pulling a large pack and getting some solid initial aggro on them. The use-effect also puts a thorns buff on you that does 5 damage to all attackers for the next 10 minutes (The buff persists even when changing helms).

Cloak:
- Cloak of Flames (BoE).

Gloves:
- Razor Gauntlets (Alzzin the Wildshaper, DM-East).

Ring:
- Naglering (Golem Lord Argelmach, BRD).

Trinket #1:
- Chained Essence of Eranikus (Quest reward, Sunken Temple).
- Ramstein's Lightning Bolts (Ramstein the Gorger, Strat-UD).
- Hand of Justice (Emperor, BRD).

Trinket #2:
- Mark of the Chosen (Quest reward, Desolace/Maraudon). Basically constant buff of +25 all stats when aoe-tanking large packs.

Weapon:
- Ironfoe (Emperor, BRD). Lifestealing on this one. Proc rate is incredibly high and provide alot more TPS than Crusader does.
- Thrash Blade (Quest reward, Maraudon). Lifestealing here aswell.
- Flurry Axe (BoE). Lifestealing.
- Quel'Serrar (Quest reward, Diremaul book). Crusader or 15agi.

Shield:
- Force Reactive Disk (300 Engineering required to wear). Thorium shield spike.
- Skullflame Shield (BoE). Thorium shield spike.
- Crest of Retribution (Ramstein the Gorger, Strat-UD). Thorium shield spike.

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Changelog:

EDIT #1: If anyone have any comments, suggestions, addition, questions or even proc-data on items/enchants please post it bellow.

EDIT #2: Added a few items.

EDIT #3: Added bile-etched Spaulders and Stoneform Shoulders

EDIT #4: Added html links for libram enchants and armor kits, changed order of priority.

EDIT #5: Changed TPS value of Lifestealing after further testing.

EDIT #6: Added several specs.

EDIT #7: Added an OT spec with 3/5 imp demoshout since you only need 5/5 if a lock is using CoR on the boss. This due to a comment in Armilus protection thread.

EDIT #8: Added a bonus section for AoE-tanking gear (Pre-raid).

EDIT #9: Added colors to the items listed indicating rarity (uncommon/rare/epic).

EDIT #10: Removed irrelevant talet-specs and changed current ones. Improved demoshout is not really a requirement in current content, even with CoR.

EDIT #11, 2016-03-01: Alcors Sunrazor has now been changed to BoP (changing back to BoE with patch 1.9/AQ release).

EDIT #4 (2019-04-21): Made changes on some gear recommendations, added some and removed others due to research, more theory crafting and an over-all changes in the 1.12.1 warrior META over the last couple of years.The list in its current state has been adapted to fit 1.12.1 gearing choices. If Classic wow ends up using progressive itemization, disregard some of the items listed.

The protection META of vanilla has gone through a big shift, away from the old way of thinking about defense and the mis-guided gospel of the def-cap. This is no longer considered the main priority. Focus Lies in balancing EHP/Health pool (basically a mix of defensive stats and health) along side with a higher focus on threat capabilities.
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Re: [GUIDE] Protection Pre-Raid-BiS-List

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:31 pm
by vido
Very nice guide, though it could use a couple more additions namely t1 BoEs, AV exalted shield/ring and satyr's bow. 1% dodge isn't inherently inferior to 100 hp though for current BWL progression you would definitely want to to stack that health for those broodlord mortal strikes and nefarian warrior calls.

Also with +15 agility released I don't think tank enchants are even debateable now since it looks far superior to any other option.

Re: [GUIDE] Protection Pre-Raid-BiS-List

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:04 pm
by St0rfan
vido wrote:Very nice guide, though it could use a couple more additions namely t1 BoEs, AV exalted shield/ring and satyr's bow. 1% dodge isn't inherently inferior to 100 hp though for current BWL progression you would definitely want to to stack that health for those broodlord mortal strikes and nefarian warrior calls.

Also with +15 agility released I don't think tank enchants are even debateable now since it looks far superior to any other option.


Thank you for your suggestion. The list has now been updated. Please report thread for sticky if you find it useful.

Re: [GUIDE] Protection Pre-Raid-BiS-List

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:45 am
by ChargingMoose
Damn, I had written all this out with a plan to post it, but this looks exactly like what I got. Only thing I might add is Darrowspike above Lifeforce Dirk for threat. It's the next best thing if people aren't going to buy Scarlet Kris or Julie's. Definitely favorited this page.

Re: [GUIDE] Protection Pre-Raid-BiS-List

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:55 am
by Brunchkin
Good list. Saw that these were missing.

Legplates of Vigilance
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=22328

Re: [GUIDE] Protection Pre-Raid-BiS-List

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:48 am
by St0rfan
ChargingMoose wrote:Damn, I had written all this out with a plan to post it, but this looks exactly like what I got. Only thing I might add is Darrowspike above Lifeforce Dirk for threat. It's the next best thing if people aren't going to buy Scarlet Kris or Julie's. Definitely favorited this page.

Thank you for your suggestion. There are several other daggers too that are under 1.5 speed that I plan to add.

Brunchkin wrote:Good list. Saw that these were missing.

Legplates of Vigilance
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=22328

These legs are not available yet and that is why I didnt add them to the list. They will be added with the same patch that enables tier 0.5 quest chain, which would be patch 1.10 or 1.11 meaning late spring 2016.

Re: [GUIDE] Protection Pre-Raid-BiS-List

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:26 pm
by Faustz
vido wrote:Very nice guide, though it could use a couple more additions namely t1 BoEs, AV exalted shield/ring and satyr's bow. 1% dodge isn't inherently inferior to 100 hp though for current BWL progression you would definitely want to to stack that health for those broodlord mortal strikes and nefarian warrior calls.

Also with +15 agility released I don't think tank enchants are even debateable now since it looks far superior to any other option.


Definitely agree here. I don't think 1% dodge is worse at all depending on your role, but you need to be smart about balancing stam and avoidance. Personally I can reach 10.7k hp in BWL with dodge librams with full raid buffs, DM, flask and consumables (lung juice ftw). Adding any more to that would just be overkill for this level of content. For a fresh geared blue tank there is no question you want the hp though.

Re: [GUIDE] Protection Pre-Raid-BiS-List

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:17 pm
by St0rfan
Added a few more items.

Re: [GUIDE] Protection Pre-Raid-BiS-List

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:42 pm
by Pottu
Stickied. Please keep the list updated.

Re: [GUIDE] Protection Pre-Raid-BiS-List

PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:24 pm
by St0rfan
Pottu wrote:Stickied. Please keep the list updated.


Thank you. I will once deathbone and other def-items are updated. Which patch is that? 1.10?