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Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:33 pm
by Heldunder
av one is better.

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:08 am
by Undertanker
Because deflector has not been nerfed it is best for raid tanking. AV one is better for 5 man and solo grinding, due to the block value.

Stacking block value can make mobs hit for 0 frequently in these cases, and on weaker melee bosses, you will see full block or, 4 damage - 180 damage, making it LOL.

As for loot, if you tank an instance you are entitled to roll on tanking items. If you are fury, you are entitled to fury gear. So if the group struggled to find a pure tank and decided you could do it, this should not limit your gear potential.

If you are only damage and there are two tanks there, you could then be nice and let them roll it out.

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:56 pm
by Brion
I'm not sure if it's an oversight or if I'm missing something, but Nagelring is not listed in the Ring #1 or Ring #2 BIS categories. It is listed in AOE tanking, though. I would imagine that Nagelring is as/more useful than Band of Flesh for standard tanking.

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:36 pm
by St0rfan
Brion wrote:I'm not sure if it's an oversight or if I'm missing something, but Nagelring is not listed in the Ring #1 or Ring #2 BIS categories. It is listed in AOE tanking, though. I would imagine that Nagelring is as/more useful than Band of Flesh for standard tanking.


Naglering does not currently have any defensive stats on it. In a later patch it will have stamina and def added to it. For this reason, it is currently pretty bad for normal tanking.

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:20 pm
by Brion
St0rfan wrote:
Brion wrote:I'm not sure if it's an oversight or if I'm missing something, but Nagelring is not listed in the Ring #1 or Ring #2 BIS categories. It is listed in AOE tanking, though. I would imagine that Nagelring is as/more useful than Band of Flesh for standard tanking.


Naglering does not currently have any defensive stats on it. In a later patch it will have stamina and def added to it. For this reason, it is currently pretty bad for normal tanking.

Ah, right, forgot that it was upgraded later in vanilla. I haven't hit 60 yet, so I hadn't seen its current stats.

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:44 pm
by DanielGames
Would the proc from Julie's Dagger interfere with priest renew? Debating on buying it.

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:24 pm
by Brion
DanielGames wrote:Would the proc from Julie's Dagger interfere with priest renew? Debating on buying it.

I have done no testing, but unless it gives a buff named Renew just like the priest's, I highly doubt it would. You can have HoT effects like Renew, Rejuvenation, and Bandage all rolling at the same time.

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 2:22 am
by DanielGames
Brion wrote:
DanielGames wrote:Would the proc from Julie's Dagger interfere with priest renew? Debating on buying it.

I have done no testing, but unless it gives a buff named Renew just like the priest's, I highly doubt it would. You can have HoT effects like Renew, Rejuvenation, and Bandage all rolling at the same time.


Ah the reason I asked was because it shares the same buff icon. The buff itself is called Julie's Blessing. I bought the dagger for pretty cheap anyways. Tested it myself with a 60 priest so the verdict is they don't overwrite each other. I guess I'm still used to feenix rules hehe.

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:23 pm
by Argint
I currently own the savage gladiator chain and it has the 20 defence rating. Where would you rank it?

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:36 am
by Undertanker
DanielGames wrote:Would the proc from Julie's Dagger interfere with priest renew? Debating on buying it.


I bought this dagger mid 50s, and put crusader on it, amazing healing. The proc effect is up 100% of the time, it is a small heal but for a prot warrior that avoids most damage, it kept me at 100% when farming. And the 1.3 speed was a good starter tps weapon.

However, this was back in April of last year, and it did not stack with renew. Not blizz like. It actually would prevent a priest from being able to renew you, and this buff overwrote renew. So I could only use this in 5 mans with Pally or Druid.

The bug seems similar to priest 8/8 not stacking.

Have not tested this since then.