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Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:22 pm
by MrCer
What are your thoughts/rankings on ironfoe with life stealing as a TPS weapon for furry tanking vs other tps weapons? The reason I ask is because flurry proc makes ironfoe a 1.85 wep speed and deep wounds scales with wep dmg(using ironfoe over alcors will double deep wounds dmg).

Also flurry procs only take off 0.30 speed fro. Alcor vs 0.55 speed (almost double)

Also ironfoe procs increases the chance to crit (more flurry/deep wounds)

Also lifestealing vs crusader as fury tank?

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:40 pm
by St0rfan
MrCer wrote:What are your thoughts/rankings on ironfoe with life stealing as a TPS weapon for furry tanking vs other tps weapons? The reason I ask is because flurry proc makes ironfoe a 1.85 wep speed and deep wounds scales with wep dmg(using ironfoe over alcors will double deep wounds dmg).

Also flurry procs only take off 0.30 speed fro. Alcor vs 0.55 speed (almost double)

Also ironfoe procs increases the chance to crit (more flurry/deep wounds)

Also lifestealing vs crusader as fury tank?


It's hard to say. Honestly though, there arent many situations where you tank as fury where TPS is also a factor. Personaly I use my ironfoe for tanking onyxia (due to rage starvation) and when tanking 5mans. I always tanks bosses with Alcors for single-target threat and occationally with Quel'Serrar for the fun of it.

I would say, in the few situations you will be tanking as fury, use Ironfoe.

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:25 pm
by bdc
What enchant should i put on my shield?I have the hakkar shield if that matters

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:38 pm
by St0rfan
bdc wrote:What enchant should i put on my shield?I have the hakkar shield if that matters


2% block and 7stam is probably pretty equal if you arent crush-immune (25% block), however I would still recommend 7stam since block only works against physical dmg and a large health pool helps against all sorts of damage.

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:13 pm
by zmandude24
bdc wrote:What enchant should i put on my shield?I have the hakkar shield if that matters

I'd say +7 stam since +2% block chance is pretty much useless on a warrior due to shield block. As long as you have 26.4% avoidance + block chance, shield block will push crits and crushing blows off of the table and you get that for free if you spec properly. As a prot warrior, you will have about 25% avoidance + block in grey gear, so you will never need +2% block chance.

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:07 am
by thenuclearwalrus
I didnt see it on the post, what enchant would you recommend for a shield, not in the aoe tanking category? 2% Block or Stamina?

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:38 pm
by Undertanker
+7 stam > 2% block.

This is also why I value DM Tribute cloak over Overlords

To me 5 stam > 1 block and a lil armor.

Going off what St0rfan is saying, more times than not, what will kill you is a quick set combination of spell damage, and you experiencing some type off CC for a split second or a healer being feared.

Bigger heal pool will help in ALL situations.

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:23 pm
by St0rfan
Undertanker wrote:+7 stam > 2% block.

This is also why I value DM Tribute cloak over Overlords

To me 5 stam > 1 block and a lil armor.

Going off what St0rfan is saying, more times than not, what will kill you is a quick set combination of spell damage, and you experiencing some type off CC for a split second or a healer being feared.

Bigger heal pool will help in ALL situations.


Again, assuming you already have 25% block (crush immune). Most people wont reach this before they got styleens. I got Styleens and still dont reach it.

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:15 pm
by zmandude24
St0rfan wrote:
Undertanker wrote:+7 stam > 2% block.

This is also why I value DM Tribute cloak over Overlords

To me 5 stam > 1 block and a lil armor.

Going off what St0rfan is saying, more times than not, what will kill you is a quick set combination of spell damage, and you experiencing some type off CC for a split second or a healer being feared.

Bigger heal pool will help in ALL situations.


Again, assuming you already have 25% block (crush immune). Most people wont reach this before they got styleens. I got Styleens and still dont reach it.

Unless there's a bug on this server that makes it so avoidance doesn't help push off crushing blows, +block chance is completely useless for warriors. Though you are correct in the point of needing to make 100% sure you have enough effective hp to survive the burst damage scenarios as your #1 priority.

Re: [GUIDE] Prot Pre-Raid-BiS-List / Specs / Enchants

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:32 pm
by jyton
How would you rate Force Reactive Disk? It's BoE and on the AH for 300g (PVPA, anyway). Is it worth picking up Engineering for?

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