Is 440 Cap needed?

[Airoch]

I heard boss crit is bugged and tanks are not needing the 440 cap? Wondering if this is rumor/myth or false information. Anyone do any testing?

[St0rfan]

I heard boss crit is bugged and tanks are not needing the 440 cap? Wondering if this is rumor/myth or false information. Anyone do any testing?

Not, it isnt needed.

EDIT: As for testing. Most guild maintanks on the server has been doing MC and BWL for months without having issues even though not being defcapped.

Def is well worth stacking ALOT of along with stamina, but cap isnt "required".

[Heldunder]

I heard boss crit is bugged and tanks are not needing the 440 cap? Wondering if this is rumor/myth or false information. Anyone do any testing?

Not, it isnt needed.

EDIT: As for testing. Most guild maintanks on the server has been doing MC and BWL for months without having issues even though not being defcapped.

Def is well worth stacking ALOT of along with stamina, but cap isnt "required".

from experiance ive never seen a crit over 420 def. tho they have upgraded the damage on some ZG bosses.

[Plask]

Not in any way needed. But advisable to avoid spikes that can kill you before healers can react.

[zmandude24]

I'm the MT of an upcoming guild and I have def cap being in mostly blues and 2 epics. It is not required but nice to have if it doesn't sacrifice a significant amount of other important stats in order to get it. As for being bugged, I'm not 100% sure but I have never been crit once MTing Ony in my halfass fire resist gear (like 400 def and 90 fire resist). Unless a boss is capable of taking like 75%+ of your max hp with a crit, you don't need def cap, but I might be wrong since my tanking experience comes from tbc and I just started serious raiding again here on Nost.

[Plask]

I'm the MT of an upcoming guild and I have def cap being in mostly blues and 2 epics. It is not required but nice to have if it doesn't sacrifice a significant amount of other important stats in order to get it. As for being bugged, I'm not 100% sure but I have never been crit once MTing Ony in my halfass fire resist gear (like 400 def and 90 fire resist). Unless a boss is capable of taking like 75%+ of your max hp with a crit, you don't need def cap, but I might be wrong since my tanking experience comes from tbc and I just started serious raiding again here on Nost.

Nah thats wrong. Also its hard to notice you get critted until you take a spike of dmg or die and have a combatlog up. Even with 430+ defense you occasionally get critted.

Try saving a combatlog from a whole raid and parse out amount of crits you take. Just because you don't notice them doesnt mean they dont happen

[Noonze]

I'm the MT of an upcoming guild and I have def cap being in mostly blues and 2 epics. It is not required but nice to have if it doesn't sacrifice a significant amount of other important stats in order to get it. As for being bugged, I'm not 100% sure but I have never been crit once MTing Ony in my halfass fire resist gear (like 400 def and 90 fire resist). Unless a boss is capable of taking like 75%+ of your max hp with a crit, you don't need def cap, but I might be wrong since my tanking experience comes from tbc and I just started serious raiding again here on Nost.

The reason why you dont see Ony crits you is that with 400 def your chance to be critical damaged equil to 1.6%. The chance is indeed small compare to Ony's attack speed/time of fight.

[Armilus]

I'm the MT of an upcoming guild and I have def cap being in mostly blues and 2 epics. It is not required but nice to have if it doesn't sacrifice a significant amount of other important stats in order to get it. As for being bugged, I'm not 100% sure but I have never been crit once MTing Ony in my halfass fire resist gear (like 400 def and 90 fire resist). Unless a boss is capable of taking like 75%+ of your max hp with a crit, you don't need def cap, but I might be wrong since my tanking experience comes from tbc and I just started serious raiding again here on Nost.

The reason why you dont see Ony crits you is that with 400 def your chance to be critical damaged equil to 1.6%. The chance is indeed small compare to Ony's attack speed/time of fight.

Also, when shield block is up you can't be crit.

If you want to watch for crits, I recommend the recap addon. It's a damage meter but it gives you a good breakdown of damage instead of just totals so you can see how many crits, miss, etc. You can also see how much of your damage is from each ability. I never use it for looking at incoming damage but I'm pretty sure it also has hit/crit/block etc.

[Undertanker]

Also Ony hits like a bitch, much like the majority of mc bosses. So you do not notice them. Though shield block helps, an aggro capped fight such as Ony, I do not have it up always as being rage starved on her, more aggro is > less damage taken in this fight.

BWL bosses like Chromag, Nef, Broodlord, and first drake you will notice a huge spike on a crit.

[zmandude24]

Also Ony hits like a bitch, much like the majority of mc bosses. So you do not notice them. Though shield block helps, an aggro capped fight such as Ony, I do not have it up always as being rage starved on her, more aggro is > less damage taken in this fight.

BWL bosses like Chromag, Nef, Broodlord, and first drake you will notice a huge spike on a crit.

I don't even have any T1, just preMC BiS and she still doesn't completely ragecap me at times. And I do keep shield block up on all raid bosses (except UBRS but that isn't really a raid) because I'm not stacked in T2 like many of the MTs on this forum yet.