Why 99.99% of the pve rogues are combat swords?

Re: Why 99.99% of the pve rogues are combat sowrds?

by 50shadesofayyy » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:30 am

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chrisxlimv wrote:Sorry to break it to you but your combat dagger spec is very wonky. You need to take a look at Oto's thread and read up a bit on how to play this spec. Here is my personal Combat Dagger's spec http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#f0xfoLZhfVbbEz0boV You never use SS while using daggers so I switched those points into Imp Gouge but other than that it's basically the same exact thing.


I don't know why do I feel bashing and jealousy in your comments...Mr chrisjclixlolmS? Maybe you are 120kg weight, eating potato chips, still living in your mother's basement, playing wow ..?

Anyways son.. Let me tell you an old story, It was year 2005/2006 after getting my High Warlord rank, I started to raid again, there was me, some tier 2, r14 wps with Combat Sword spec+ Hoj and the other rogue, with full tier2, r14 wps and Combat Fists spec. Rest of the 38 people in raid, were not even in the game. It was impossible to beat that guy ( combat fists > combat swords, no math, algebra, calculator needed ). I changed to (15/31/5) Combat Daggers, I won him.. many times, and a lot others to this date.

And now.. about your talent build, you posted: It is wrong: 1. no Murder 2. no Imp Gouge 3. no Imp Sprint. Cba to elaborate and teach you more, since your rude.
The (15/31/5) I linked, is flawlessly the most accurate pve Combat Daggers build, in game.
adding some sustained damage over time by that educational rotation, makes it superb. But you need to use more than 2 cells of your brain, to find out the different situations of when to use what, for example it is completely situational on how you start the fights (sometimes you run, sometimes you stealth approach) but the build and the rotation still remains the same.


You literally just gave me aids. Please post your in game name so I can throw your application in the trash pre-emptively.
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Re: Why 99.99% of the pve rogues are combat sowrds?

by Casualy » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:59 am

50shadesofayyy wrote:
Casualy wrote:
chrisxlimv wrote:Sorry to break it to you but your combat dagger spec is very wonky. You need to take a look at Oto's thread and read up a bit on how to play this spec. Here is my personal Combat Dagger's spec http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#f0xfoLZhfVbbEz0boV You never use SS while using daggers so I switched those points into Imp Gouge but other than that it's basically the same exact thing.


I don't know why do I feel bashing and jealousy in your comments...Mr chrisjclixlolmS? Maybe you are 120kg weight, eating potato chips, still living in your mother's basement, playing wow ..?

Anyways son.. Let me tell you an old story, It was year 2005/2006 after getting my High Warlord rank, I started to raid again, there was me, some tier 2, r14 wps with Combat Sword spec+ Hoj and the other rogue, with full tier2, r14 wps and Combat Fists spec. Rest of the 38 people in raid, were not even in the game. It was impossible to beat that guy ( combat fists > combat swords, no math, algebra, calculator needed ). I changed to (15/31/5) Combat Daggers, I won him.. many times, and a lot others to this date.

And now.. about your talent build, you posted: It is wrong: 1. no Murder 2. no Imp Gouge 3. no Imp Sprint. Cba to elaborate and teach you more, since your rude.
The (15/31/5) I linked, is flawlessly the most accurate pve Combat Daggers build, in game.
adding some sustained damage over time by that educational rotation, makes it superb. But you need to use more than 2 cells of your brain, to find out the different situations of when to use what, for example it is completely situational on how you start the fights (sometimes you run, sometimes you stealth approach) but the build and the rotation still remains the same.


You literally just gave me aids. Please post your in game name so I can throw your application in the trash pre-emptively.


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Re: Why 99.99% of the pve rogues are combat swords?

by Casualy » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:01 am

Thank you Everybody
We do no longer require your constructive feed backs.
This Thread is now officially Closed.
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Re: Why 99.99% of the pve rogues are combat swords?

by Aslan » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:13 am

chrisxlimv wrote:Not even going to reply to all this. Either read up on the two main Rogue posts or keep living the fantasy life. If you're going to sit there and tell me that Oto's very own specs are incorrect then idk what to tell you dude..

Keep it real and stick to Soyoen... Not everyone with a fancy layout has a clue about rogues.
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Re: Why 99.99% of the pve rogues are combat swords?

by Thanateri » Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:00 pm

guys...guys...guys...just stop fighting each other. the best combat sword spec is this http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fhgcoxZMLVbbVzxfo. and the best combat dagger is this http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#f0gcoLZMjVbzEz0boV. no murde no gouge no anything that is useless in raids. fists are better than swords only if u got r14 fists or if u can get sapphiron off hand. and the reason swords>daggers is that many many fights are not static ones..in many cases u have to move a lot and cant go behind the boss, so swords performs better than anything. you will see it eventually when u get to raid aq40 and naxx. ooh and ofc dont ever use rupture or any other poison than instant one...never.
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Re: Why 99.99% of the pve rogues are combat swords?

by Aslan » Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:16 pm

Thanateri wrote:guys...guys...guys...just stop fighting each other. the best combat sword spec is this http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fhgcoxZMLVbbVzxfo. and the best combat dagger is this http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#f0gcoLZMjVbzEz0boV. no murde no gouge no anything that is useless in raids. fists are better than swords only if u got r14 fists or if u can get sapphiron off hand. and the reason swords>daggers is that many many fights are not static ones..in many cases u have to move a lot and cant go behind the boss, so swords performs better than anything. you will see it eventually when u get to raid aq40 and naxx. ooh and ofc dont ever use rupture or any other poison than instant one...never.

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Re: Why 99.99% of the pve rogues are combat swords?

by Niko » Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:18 pm

2% overall dps more worth
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Re: Why 99.99% of the pve rogues are combat swords?

by Aslan » Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:55 pm

Niko wrote:2% overall dps more worth

Show math, please include the % of mobs benefitting from murder with their hp pool in relation to the ones that dont=P.. and please dont forget about the rotation tweaks which ruthlessness allowes
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Re: Why 99.99% of the pve rogues are combat swords?

by Stenchofgoat » Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:10 pm

Great thread. Bumping so any new rogues have easy access to this great info. Thanks for the post OP you helped me out a bunch!
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Re: Why 99.99% of the pve rogues are combat swords?

by Setup » Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:45 pm

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