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today i hit 60 and got my new daggers from the grind in the last AV-weekend, but now i dont know which enchant to put on. some say mainhand +dmgm offhand crusader, others say mainhand crusader, offhand crusader/agi. i just cant find a reliable source
the sticky rogue guides are very useful in here, but sadly the are almost only covering the sword part. so can anybody help me out with links for dagger guides or just can flat out tell me what i should enchant in pve and pvp.

There is only one way to go , thats +5 weapon damage on MH weapo and 15agil on OH

+dmg is junk. You may as well slot 2x agi.

Drain wrote:+dmg is junk. You may as well slot 2x agi.

Why would u say +5wep dmg is Junk as dagger ?

In Off Hand, +15 Agility is the way to go as a Dagger Rogue.

In MH, Crusader isn't that great because of its proc chance being determined by the speed of your Weapon (the faster your weapon the lower the proc chance), it has a lower proc chance on a Dagger than on say, a Sword. And you use Backstab less than Sinister Strike on top of that.

In PvE, +15 Agility is superior to +5 Damage on a MH. By a small margin, but it is, due to Agility scaling better than the +Weapon Damage. If you're crit-capped, +5 Weapon Damage becomes superior again btw.

In PvP, well it's a matter of taste. Some prefer the +5 Damage for the extra burst on Ambush / Backstab, some other people stick to the +15 Agility. Neither are wrong I guess.

All in all, these two enchants are very close in MH (even Crusader isn't *that* far behind).

If you are not using atleast MH crusader for pve that's cuz ur bad and u should feel bad...

TaurenRogue wrote:If you are not using atleast MH crusader for pve that's cuz ur bad and u should feel bad...

Well my own calculation did not show that (although Crusader is close behind the other two), but if you think there is an error in the way I modeled Crusader in my spreadsheet, I'd be happy if you could share it with me .

I'm personally a fan of MH Crusader for PvP, which apparently defies all logic... however when it procs, it's like having +12 weapon damage for your backstabs, and it heals for ~150 or something like that. It also seems to proc more often than people give it credit for (and not uncommonly will proc multiple times in a single fight). In my opinion, any weapon enchant will have an overall negligible difference in PvP, but Crusader's effects come in "bursts" which have an actual chance of changing the outcome of an encounter, at least the way I look at it.

Maybe I'm just a fan of seeing something proc, I don't know. I'd definitely recommend the +15 agility on your offhand (which ignores the logic of my previous argument anyway).

Youfie wrote:

TaurenRogue wrote:If you are not using atleast MH crusader for pve that's cuz ur bad and u should feel bad...

Well my own calculation did not show that (although Crusader is close behind the other two), but if you think there is an error in the way I modeled Crusader in my spreadsheet, I'd be happy if you could share it with me .

The crusader is usable with cooldowns like tea, ar, and blade flurry, heals, and if nothing else is way more fun than a flat stat bonus... if you want feedback on a spreadsheet comparison of crusader with the other enchants you should give a link

TaurenRogue wrote:if you want feedback on a spreadsheet comparison of crusader with the other enchants you should give a link

Constructive criticism is welcome .

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