The truth about Cold Blood

The truth about Cold Blood

by Klarzack » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:02 am

Normally I never post on forums. I pretty much enjoy PVP and I've been hooked on PvPing as a Rogue since day 1. I played on Murloc Village, Mastmania, Smoldeforge, Dalaran WoW, etc. and in each one of them I was a well-known Rogue. People would always ask me to do Arenas and I would always score big in Bgs. I quit Wow for a year and now I came back, and decided to play on Nostalrius. Now you know a bit of my background. I just wanted to debate the actual Roguish Matrix System on this server. It seems like every Rogue is using the same spec for PvE, and the same exact spec for PvP, at least from what I've seen. They would search for old vanilla guides and talent trees and they would copy them. I just want to tell you something: the best rogue in Vanilla is Subtlety rogue. It is the one who does most damage. This is my first time playing Vanilla, and I can tell u this because I've played the Expansions and used common sense.

If you don't have Mutilate, there's no reason for you to play Assassination to the fullest. Unless you're going to PvE, using combat in PvP is just silly. Using Subtlety in PvP is the best decision you can make.

Many people put so much emphasis on Cold Blood. Cold Blood from TBC on is OK, basically it gets on the way to get Mutilate so, why not take it? But in Vanilla is crappy, really crappy. People use it to get a nice crit on Ambush or Backstab. If you use it just to crit with SS or Esvicerate, you're dummy. So, why would you go such a long way to get CB just to proc ONE crit with Ambush or Backstab? Every 3 minutes? It makes no sense, it's a waste of talent points. Then CB opens Seal Fate, which gives you an additional combo point basically. WOW, do you think that's op? I remind you, in Vanilla you don't have Mutilate, why would you go with Assassination such a long way? To get Vigor? It's +10 energy, ONCE, when in combat. Meh...

Now let's get real and compare it to Subt: Instead of CB I suggest you to get a nice gear, to boost that critical chance, get Malice, get Lethality, before you get to Lethality get Relentless Strikes, awesome talent :). So far, we have a decent Critical Strike chance, but it doesn't equal CB. Well, now it's time to get some points on Opportunity and Improved Ambush. Now you can forget about CB because you will most likely always get a critical strike from Ambush. Use Improved Backstab to score a critical strike with Backstab. No need for CB. No need to go such a long way just to get that crappy talent. Seal Fate? 5 points? What a waste man... Get Initiative, and you get that extra combo on your target. It will also enable to use better talents even further. You can then get Highthened Senses and crush them rogues in 1v1, you can get Preparation which is awesome to remove CDs, a rogue without CD is a rogue that wins most of the time. Really, there's so much to explore there. Assassination, get them 15 points in there, no more. Combat? 8 points, no more, just to improve Backstab. Because that's what Rogue's are about in Vanilla, Ambush, Backstab and good Stealth. Subtlety offers you that. In case you want to use a daggerless build, you need to combine Subt with Combat and Assass in a different way, but again...

Remember... Cold Blood sucks. Don't waste your valuable talent points just to get to that talent.
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Re: The truth about Cold Blood

by Bluefear » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:15 pm

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Re: The truth about Cold Blood

by Ganker » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:35 pm

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fheboxkZGcZE0e0c0o

PvP cookie cutter. undeniably one of the 2 best specs for pvp
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Re: The truth about Cold Blood

by EasyLee » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:25 pm

Ganker wrote:http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fheboxkZGcZE0e0c0o

PvP cookie cutter. undeniably one of the 2 best specs for pvp

Yes. Arguably the best PvP spec, period, because it works at any level of gear. And to the OP, cheap shot is the opener of choice in PvP, especially considering latency.
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Re: The truth about Cold Blood

by northaunt » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:05 am

Epic fail. U're noname
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Re: The truth about Cold Blood

by Klarzack » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:28 pm

Wow, you really don't get me do you? Why would u waste so many talent points to get CB when u could get Improved Ambush? Anyways, not gonna argue with "r u dumb" ppl, loss of time
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Re: The truth about Cold Blood

by Klarzack » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:29 pm

Btw those build suck hard, Hemo is a must, superior to SS
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Re: The truth about Cold Blood

by Setup » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:55 pm

Klarzack wrote:So, why would you go such a long way to get CB just to proc ONE crit with Ambush or Backstab? Every 3 minutes?


Because you're playing a version of the game where most players can be killed in 2-3 seconds, not 2-3 minutes.
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Re: The truth about Cold Blood

by Fading » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:32 pm

Ganker wrote:http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fheboxkZGcZE0e0c0o

PvP cookie cutter. undeniably one of the 2 best specs for pvp


Undeniably? Your spec doesn't even have Elusiveness, relax.
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Re: The truth about Cold Blood

by EasyLee » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:13 pm

Fading wrote:
Ganker wrote:http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fheboxkZGcZE0e0c0o

PvP cookie cutter. undeniably one of the 2 best specs for pvp


Undeniably? Your spec doesn't even have Elusiveness, relax.

Maybe you'll like this better: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fheboxkZGcZiMe0c0k
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