Ferocious Bite bugged?

Ferocious Bite bugged?

by ceen2 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:49 am

Hi,

Ferocious Bite is adding a plain amount of damage which is not increased by any stats.
Is it working as intended or bugged?
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Re: Ferocious Bite bugged?

by ceen2 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:33 pm

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Re: Ferocious Bite bugged?

by shiftlock » Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:59 am

Their definitely seems to be an issue with the damage output of ferocious bite.
according to tooltip:

Ferocious Bite
Rank 1
35 energy
Melee Range
Instant
Finishing move that causes damage per combo point and converts each extra point of energy into 1 additional damage. Damage is increased by your Attack Power.
1 point : 50-66 damage
2 points: 86-102 damage
3 points: 122-138 damage
4 points: 158-174 damage
5 points: 194-210 damage

at 5 points with my lvl 37 druid with feral spec and 400+ attack power i'm only doing 150 damage on 5 points ferocious bite finishers.
Can other druids please confirm so we can report this as a bug.
thanks!
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Re: Ferocious Bite bugged?

by Melgarh » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:08 pm

Can definitely confirm but don't have the numbers - however ferocious bite is doing LESS damage than regular Claw and that I can confirm on 100%.

Was so much looking for Ferocious bite and rolling through enemies but.. ended up rather disappointed :(
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Re: Ferocious Bite bugged?

by Armilus » Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:41 pm

shiftlock wrote:Their definitely seems to be an issue with the damage output of ferocious bite.
according to tooltip:

Ferocious Bite
Rank 1
35 energy
Melee Range
Instant
Finishing move that causes damage per combo point and converts each extra point of energy into 1 additional damage. Damage is increased by your Attack Power.
1 point : 50-66 damage
2 points: 86-102 damage
3 points: 122-138 damage
4 points: 158-174 damage
5 points: 194-210 damage

at 5 points with my lvl 37 druid with feral spec and 400+ attack power i'm only doing 150 damage on 5 points ferocious bite finishers.
Can other druids please confirm so we can report this as a bug.
thanks!


When you account for armor, that's about right. Assuming you have 0 extra energy being converted to damage and assuming that AP doesn't add much damage.

But if it's doing less damage than claw, that's probably not right.
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Re: Ferocious Bite bugged?

by Tichonus » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:37 pm

Calculating Ferociuos Bite is as follows:

Rank 4:

5 Combo Points Min Damage = ( AP * 0,1526 + [energy - 35] * 2.5 + 685 ) * talents
5 Combo Points Max Damage = ( AP * 0,1526 + [energy - 35] * 2.5 + 735 ) * talents

5 Combo Points Max Damage with optimal Talents:

Damage = (( AP * 0,1526 + [energy - 35] * 2.5 + 735 ) * 1.15 [5/5 Feral Aggression] )* 1.1 [5/5Natural Talents]

Assuming we have 1000 AP

Damage = (( 1000 * 0,1526 + ( [100- 35] * 2.5 ) + 735 ) * 1.15 )* 1.1 = 1328.x

Maximum Damage output on a target with 0 Armor for a Value of 1000 AP on max Energy and Combo Points is 1328.3765.

1328.3765 reduced by armor usually ends up in raids onto a value between 500-700 ish noncrit depending on the debuffs.
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Re: Ferocious Bite bugged?

by shiftlock » Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:40 pm

It's deffinately not calculated like that at this moment.

this part:
( AP * 0,1526 + [energy - 35] * 2.5 +

Is missing from what I see.
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Re: Ferocious Bite bugged?

by Tichonus » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:03 am

Is missing from what I see.


It's right there, several times.

It's deffinately not calculated like that at this moment.


We'll then give us the right calculation if you're so smart.
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Re: Ferocious Bite bugged?

by shiftlock » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:12 pm

My previous post was indeed premature and ungrounded.
I've done a testsession of applying ferocious bite with 35/100 energy and the results were indeed consistent with the damage formulas you provided. Thanks for the info about the damage calculation.
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Re: Ferocious Bite bugged?

by Tichonus » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:37 pm

Glad to help.

I'm currently maxing out on 1.8k AP Raid/Worldbuffed and hit for noncrits around 800 to 1400 depending on the Boss.

I can alsso confirm, it is really not worth it trying to ferobite with more that 40ish energy after a powershift. The damage difference is not worth wasting another energy tick.
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