Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

Zanbaka wrote:

Imbaslap wrote:moonglow&NG HT build makes it impossible to even go OOM. (IE start using high healing power trinkets and ZG trinket for spike high heals with literally no mana cost.

druids by far have the most unique specs for healing, giving strengths and weaknesses in different scenarios. Druids are the best healers hands down imo.


judging a healer based on his mana pool is a misperception in itself. different builds require different mana costs, and different spells.

learn the 4 healing druid specs and their strengths/weaknesses before judging the druid's potential in your raid. also make sure the druids in your raid are not all 51 resto or some gimmick spec, gimping eachother's potential healing throughput, and forcing your priests/pallies to cover raid healing slack.
pallies/priests should be prio on tanks as they are the strongest ST healers with the most tools. you only need 1 51 resto to cover hots/swiftmend on 2-3 tanks. any other druid is pure raid healing/tank assist when needed.


TLDR, learn the 3 healing classes, their strengths/weakness, don't judge it based on pure raw healing/overhealing. focus on the RAID not dying, tanks not dying, nonhealers dodging rain of fire and bringing consumables to ensure there OWN survival as well.

everyone has to pull their weight in a raid, regardless of your class. Healing in WoW and other MMO's like it are not as linear as posters are making it seem(higher numbers does not mean they are good/doing their job). high HPS = raiders taking lots of excess damage/healer doing TOO much work and healing. check out Blacklisted's raid stats and you will see all of our healers are tightly close to eachother on raw heal/overheal/efficient heal. then look at TOTAL efficient healing done. that judges the entire healing core's ability and how they function as a team.
also start looking at your raid's death counter on bosses and trash. if you have a rogue dying about 8 times or more on trash, the problem is the rogue, not the healers healing him.

Well since you (and the others) clearly have a lot of experience in healing, how do you usually assign raid healing / assignments? I can also imagine that the healing dynamics are different between alliance and horde, since pallies and shamans differ a lot from each other. Also per faction, what do you think would be the ideal healing composition?

I would love to tell you, however you would have to be in Blacklisted to get any further information.

trial and error, ask your guildies and other players within your guild. if they give you the cold shoulder, time to find a new guild then since they wont help you.

there are tons of forum threads about druids, healing, and raid composition/healing assignments per boss on the internet. if you really want to figure it out and learn, then take the time and start researching the data.

We were all noobs at one point in our gaming history. the only way to get better is to put in work on getting better. start researching things, start watching videos/streams of other players. and if you're lucky enough to join a great guild, they will help you further.

put your hots on dps as/before they take damage.

Imbaslap wrote:
I would love to tell you, however you would have to be in Blacklisted to get any further information.

we could tell you, but then we would have to kill you. i mean, they don't even tell me. This is apparently very top secret.

Dervin20 wrote:put your hots on dps as/before they take damage.

This, and what Asian said about prehealing. However I don't think he understands TL;DR lol. This too long didn't read summary was longer than this first statement.


People use meters as a **** showing contest. I like having 2 or 3 healers that conserve mana and spot heal. If shit hits the fan, you are in business to save the day.

Clearly they are wanting to see these numbers to move you up for loot prio so they don't feel they are giving loot to a bad player. Though their skill evaluation appears off. But hey, if that is what they want, give it to them for 1 raid and then tell them "i'm conserving and going MP5/spirit in my gear as well to better the raid". But again first you gotta prove your meter, right?


Know boss mechanics in regards who is going to be taking damage. Heal snipe the tank when bored. PRECAST and don't cancel. Don't conserve your mana on this "proving yourself run".

Using MC as an example, Luci, when the adds are being pulled, melee ALWAYS gets cleaved because they are impatient. Get some hots on them and see who is standing out near the tank like a dummy, get a precast going on him. Decurse is incoming, hot the crap out of the raid and burn your mana down, pop a rune/lilly and cheap mana pot, spot heal on tank and innervate yourself while helping with decurse spotting. Your mana should be almost full again, incoming mass raid damage from debuff, before it happens, have hots on as many as possible, go OOM. boss will be dead right after anyways.

Mag, melee are dumb here and don't hit max melee range, so they take unneeded immolate damage on top of stacks they get, kept a hot on them before they lose hp, other healers won't notice their HP lose so much and focus on tank, while you are cranking the numbers strong and steady. While your mp5/spirit is kicked in while looking at your hots healing, precast on tank, but if he didn't take damage cancel it so mana regen continues, rehot melee, cheap mana pot and lilly again and focus on tank from there.

These are just two examples, but the key if you need to prove yourself one night is to know what class/person takes damage when before it happens and counter it.

Raid damage is more present in AQ/Naxx and people can't heal snipe you as they have their own conservation and assignments to focus on, and you shine better there.

Thanks for the posts

Wow. its been a while since this post and already 24 replies. But since then i have switched to moonglow and have been doing a little better. baby steps i guess lol. Lots of helpful replies too. thank you all.

P.S.: Its Treeform. HI!

Check your over healing. If it's too much for your liking, rank down to 3. I know some druids that have enough healing to use rank 2, pally style.

The lower the rank, the faster the heal; so if you're over healing a lot or having to cancel casts more than you would like, casting faster spells can help. I'd recommend at last 700 +healing though.

Use different heals for different situations. I have 2 rejuvs, 3 regrowths, and 4 HTs on my bars (plus my insta heal macros) and will gain more as my gear gets better.

As I posted earlier, its hard to give advice without knowing what gear you're using. If you only have 200 +healing I'd suggest running dire maul and getting some healing gear .

Tiddy wrote:Check your over healing. If it's too much for your liking, rank down to 3. I know some druids that have enough healing to use rank 2, pally style.

The lower the rank, the faster the heal; so if you're over healing a lot or having to cancel casts more than you would like, casting faster spells can help. I'd recommend at last 700 +healing though.

Use different heals for different situations. I have 2 rejuvs, 3 regrowths, and 4 HTs on my bars (plus my insta heal macros) and will gain more as my gear gets better.

As I posted earlier, its hard to give advice without knowing what gear you're using. If you only have 200 +healing I'd suggest running dire maul and getting some healing gear .

My gear is mostly raid drops(5/8 t2, Salamander Pants). the exception being my trinkets, neck, gloves, and rings. and they are the Pre-raid BiS gear. My weapons are not pre-BiS tho. but i am working on grinding my av rep for the OH.

Edit: T1 chest as well. Getting a Stormrage Chest to drop for my guild is rare.

DeathKnight042 wrote:Wow. its been a while since this post and already 24 replies. But since then i have switched to moonglow and have been doing a little better. baby steps i guess lol. Lots of helpful replies too. thank you all.

P.S.: Its Treeform. HI!

be sure to enchant your gear

Oh you guys and your no enchant joke. I have gotten better at that lol. even got my 24 +heal on my leg. Its funny to look back on how shitty i was.