[BOOMKIN] Comprehensive BiS List (1.11/Naxx)

[Keftenk]

Actually it might not be really cheating. I was thinking about the INT mana pool. Every 20.6 points of INT should be the equivalent of a Rank7 Starfire. Just theorizing the way M/5 is with Starfire R7; INT reflective into mana should be something like .0252050146102366dps.

[Keftenk]

13.5 spirit = ~1 mp5 with 15% Reflection talent

Going by OP's breakdown, wouldn't this mean we can just divide the MP/5 dps value by 13.5 for a 1SPI=X value? So, .1038446601941748dps / 13.5 = 0.0076921970514204dps per SPI? Is that right?

[Taladril]

13.5 spirit = ~1 mp5 with 15% Reflection talent

Going by OP's breakdown, wouldn't this mean we can just divide the MP/5 dps value by 13.5 for a 1SPI=X value? So, .1038446601941748dps / 13.5 = 0.0076921970514204dps per SPI? Is that right?

If 13.5 spi at 15% does equal 1 mp5 then yes this is it. All we need to know is if that conversion is correct.

[Taladril]

Updated points as of now (final?):
SP: 1
Int: 0.183 (half of the value is from mana pool increase)
Crit: 5.9
Hit: 6.55
MP5: 0.377 (value only if you go oom)
Spi: 0.028 (value only if you go oom)

Now that we have everything potentially theorized out maybe some of you guys could do some tests to see if the math pans out. If so it would be quite interesting. It would mean that spell power for druids is way way more important than other stats for dps and that int actually is potentially more important than realized because of the larger mana pool as well as increased crit. The relative low value of hit and crit makes me wonder if just stacking spell power in any way is the optimal build (until oom of course). It seems like sp is just best bang for your buck.

[Keftenk]

I'm actually just going to submit my Crit findings now. They're incomplete as of now...

1 crit = 1.75dps = 1.75dps
2 crit = 3.51dps = 1.755dps
3 crit = 5.27dps = 1.756666666666667dps
4 crit = 7.04dps = 1.76dps
5 crit = 8.81dps = 1.762dps
6 crit = 10.59dps = 1.765dps
7 crit = 12.37dps = 1.767142857142857dps
8 crit = ?dps = ?dps
9 crit = ?dps = ?dps
10 crit = ?dps = ?dps
11 crit = ?dps = ?dps
12 crit = ?dps = ?dps
13 crit = ?dps = ?dps
14 crit = ?dps = ?dps
15 crit = ?dps = ?dps
16 crit = ?dps = ?dps
17 crit = ?dps = ?dps
18 crit = ?dps = ?dps
19 crit = ?dps = ?dps
20 crit = ?dps = ?dps

Best way to test this right now is to log into the PTR since all of the BiS gear except gloves iirc are available.

[Taladril]

Ok nice. So given the average of your crit numbers the value seems quite close. Earlier I calculated 5.9 for crit and your average is coming in at 5.94. It is clear with hit and crit that the more you have the more valuable it becomes. The difference isn't huge but it is there. From a quantitative standpoint I would think that taking the middle number for hit and crit and using it to rank gear would seem fair. If you are low on those stats the value of hit and crit would be less. If you are high then they are worth more. The difference between the value of 1 crit and 7 was 0.17 dps and 1 and 12 hit was 0.007. Crit scales a lot more than hit for sure.

[Taladril]

Updated points as of now:
SP: 1
Int: 0.184 (half of the value is from mana pool increase)
Crit: 5.94
Hit: 6.55
MP5: 0.377 (value only if you go oom)
Spi: 0.028 (value only if you go oom)

[TwinHeadedKraken]

I just want to say you guys are awesome for doing the theorycrafting.

Please let me know if I need to adjust the list if the weight of spell crit and spell hit are smaller/greater than what they appear to be.

13.5 spirit per 1 mp5 with 15% Reflection talent is based on this thread

[Keftenk]

Assuming the stat weights are right you can add them to the spread sheet for each item like the Warlock sheet you used the Moonkin sheet for basis.

[TwinHeadedKraken]

SP: 1
Int: 0.184 (half of the value is from mana pool increase)
Crit: 5.94
Hit: 6.55
MP5: 0.377 (value only if you go oom)
Spi: 0.028 (value only if you go oom)

Alright, just want to confirm the function to determine an item's "overall value" is:

(Spellpower) + (Int * .184) + (Crit * 5.94) + (Hit * 6.55) + (MP5 * .377) + (Spi * .028) = VALUE

And I'll try and make it flexible so if any of these change, a simple reconfiguration will recalculate the whole spreadsheet.