Enhancement Shaman PvP Spec?

Enhancement Shaman PvP Spec?

by Nothing » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:25 am

Looking for an enhancement Shaman PvP spec. I've looked around the forums briefly but topics just go off-topic so quickly it becomes a debate and not about the spec itself...

Any help would be appreciated ^_^
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Re: Enhancement Shaman PvP Spec?

by Caedum » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:02 am

Windfury. Imp ghost wolf.

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Re: Enhancement Shaman PvP Spec?

by Nothing » Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:37 pm

Caedum wrote:Windfury. Imp ghost wolf.

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Do you have a spec tree for me to follow? I know windfury and all that just wanted a tree spec to follow.
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Re: Enhancement Shaman PvP Spec?

by Nothing » Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:54 pm

Bumping for a talent tree spec :x
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Re: Enhancement Shaman PvP Spec?

by Aethelwulf » Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:25 pm

Here's a 0/30/21 spec. You lose your 5/5 Reverberation (which is amazing) and Stormstrike (which is basically another shot at a lucky WF proc on a 20 sec CD) but in exchange you get +3% hit and spell hit, longer totem range, more reliable self-heals, and Nature's Swiftness (which is an instant healing wave or chain lightning or lightning bolt).
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Re: Enhancement Shaman PvP Spec?

by wiseoldenemy » Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:42 pm

Don't go 0/30/21 spec its not good. It's way too slow and you shouldn't spend time healing if you don't need to. I've gone through every possible spec for shaman. (http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#hAbzxcZxifzm0ut) This is the most efficient and strongest melee shaman build you can do. Nature swiftness build, while it looks like it can work or even be better for 1v1, it's not. You are missing out on an extra auto attack, which is huge since it can crit and windfury, and 20% more damage from earth shock. On top of that, you are missing the 1 second off earth shock, and eye of the storm.

The healing kickback protection is trash since 70% isn't enough when a rogue or hunter is on you. In a fight, especially as shaman you want to be as efficient and quick as possible to eliminate the opponent. You can't dilly dally autoattacking like a paladin and pretending you're a healer, you don't have that much mana or mana recovery. If you don't have the 1 second cd removal on your earth shock, also with improved grounding, you will get sheeped. If you get sheeped you die. It's also important against warlocks and other casters too, much more important than a 1.4k heal once in a fight. The point is you shouldn't put yourself in a situation where you need that heal. Otherwise, a free chain lightning once in a fight is like 500 damage its not worth it. Stormstrike gives you a free minimum 400 damage every 20 seconds, while buffing earth shock.

With grenades, you can easily get a full heal off anyway, why do you need NS then? Also, eye of the storm is much better for casting a heal/lightning bolt (you shouldn't ever have to cast lightning bolt anyway) since you can make a /sit macro.

Make sure you get the improved earth totem too, since at 12 yards it will usually give another tick of slow.

Also, the improved totem range is detrimental, since first of all you should never use the buff totems for pvp its a waste of mana, and secondly, you want to be able to weave in and out of your grounding totem, to avoid it being killed by the wrong spell.
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Re: Enhancement Shaman PvP Spec?

by Aethelwulf » Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:29 pm

Some quick points. If your idea of 0/30/21 is to self-heal when you don't need to, you're doing it wrong. NS is not just a heal, and if you get a 1.45k heal you are undergeared since even enhance gear carries spell damage and clearly you don't have Healing Wave X. Also NS is a ZHC using spec. When you fight a warrior or the like, there are combos like trinket+chain lightning+NS+lightning bolt+shock that do over 2K damage easy without crits. Take out the NS and you're not pulling off that kind of surprise ranged damage and the ZHC becomes harder to justify. Also, just because you have a nade doesn't mean you shouldn't get NS because having NS and a nade is still much better than just having a nade.
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Re: Enhancement Shaman PvP Spec?

by wiseoldenemy » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:59 am

you know whats better than having NS and nade? having an extra auto attack and 20% more damage earth shock and nade. Having NS, which is about a 900 damage chaing lightning or something with that trinket doesn't really justify it too much. you get at least 2-3 storm strikes per fight which can equal much more damage, while just one storm strike with auto attack can be much more burst than that NS combo. Enhance doesn't have trouble with warriors anyways. Against mages and lock you need the 5 second earth shock. The only matchup that NS might be better is to stabilize against rogue, but if you properly set up and know what your doing you shouldn't be put in too deep of a hole that you need NS anyway.

Edit: re-read that combo... how are you going to pull off a 2.5 second chain lighting, especially vs a warrior anyway? Only way is if you trinket out of an intercept.... but even then a good warrior will nade you...
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Re: Enhancement Shaman PvP Spec?

by Thatoneguy » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:11 am

Aethelwulf wrote:When you fight a warrior or the like, there are combos like trinket+chain lightning+NS+lightning bolt+shock that do over 2K damage easy without crits.


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