Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by TaurenRogue » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:03 am

smilkovpetko wrote:Bosses does not apply toward basic Resistance for Holy . Because it does not exist .

Only mobs 5+ levels which does not apply toward "boss" rule in raids..

Source?
Found a ret dps video with no "resist" messages on a boss fight?
Didnt think so...
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by smilkovpetko » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:04 am

TaurenRogue wrote:Source?
Found a ret dps video with no "resist" messages on a boss fight?
Didnt think so...


do you have the same to video to prove me opposite ? don't think so...
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by smilkovpetko » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:09 am

http://vanilla-wow.wikia.com/wiki/Magic ... oW%29#Holy

The Holy school is usually related to abilities which heal and aid living beings. There are also a few spells that do Holy damage: Smite and Exorcism, for example. Contrary to popular belief, Holy Magic does not deal additional damage to undead or demons unless specifically mentioned in the tooltip (such as with Exorcism).

Priests and Paladins are the primary users of the Holy school, including all their healing and resurrection abilities.

It is not possible to resist Holy magic, giving it a slight advantage over other schools, but it does have a basic miss chance like all spells, offset by Hit rating.

Items and Buffs which give a bonus to all resistances, such as Mage Armor, do not include Holy resistance, but percentage-based damage-reduction abilities such as a Warrior's Defensive Stance successfully reduce damage from Holy spells. Also, the [Holy Protection Potion], [Greater Holy Protection Potion], and [Major Holy Protection Potion] items will also absorb limited amounts of Holy damage.
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by smilkovpetko » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:12 am

http://vanilla-wow.wikia.com/wiki/Resistance

There is no resistance stat for Holy, and as such no players nor NPCs can resist Holy spells.
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by smilkovpetko » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:17 am

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/676 ... Resistance!

Holy resistance doesn't exist.


There is none....

Do you want to resist Jesus?


Yeah. Holy is unresistable


Though even I did think about it. It is a little unfair that Disc Priests *you ever been killed by one? it makes your heart sink as a geared dps...* and Shock/Retadins get 0 resistance to break through for spells to connect.
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by Theloras » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:35 am

TaurenRogue wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:Bosses does not apply toward basic Resistance for Holy . Because it does not exist .

Only mobs 5+ levels which does not apply toward "boss" rule in raids..

Source?
Found a ret dps video with no "resist" messages on a boss fight?
Didnt think so...


Holy school damage spells (i.e.: Exorcism, Judgement of Righteousness, Holy Wrath, Holy Shock) - just like all the other magic schools - can resist if the player doesn't have enough +SPELL HIT (especially against a level 63 Raid boss where 16% spell hit is required).

Everything else though should not be resistable (i.e.: Seal of Righteousness, Seal of Command, Consecration) or being able to apply any of the three core Judgements like Crusader, Light or Wisdom.

The only exception is Judgement of Command - while this is coded as a ranged melee attack that does Holy dmg - it can resist against higher level targets if the Paladin doesn't have enough +MELEE HIT rating (since it cannot be Blocked/Dodged/Parried). Otherwise, it should not be able to be resisted if the Paladin has 9% melee hit.
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by Dragonov » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:10 am

Well we know of the bugs, do we know when they are going to be fixed?
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by smilkovpetko » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:41 pm

Dragonov wrote:Well we know of the bugs, do we know when they are going to be fixed?


good question :D

Just to announce :

Not used

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 5471_o.jpg

Used

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 5735_o.jpg

I see that Benediction is working properly.
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by Theloras » Tue Nov 10, 2015 1:31 am

I have some good news to report here at least:

Re: Multiple Judgement of Crusade should not be Bannable
by Nano » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:25 am

No one has been banned for this and they won't because it's working as intended. This whole thread has run its course.

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 30#p182280

https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2597

:)
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by Theloras » Tue Nov 10, 2015 1:33 am

smilkovpetko wrote:
Dragonov wrote:Well we know of the bugs, do we know when they are going to be fixed?


good question :D

Just to announce :

Not used

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 5471_o.jpg

Used

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 5735_o.jpg

I see that Benediction is working properly.


Benediction works with the general Paladin Seals SoL, SoW and SoR, but not with Retribution specific Seals SoC or SotC.
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