Consecration (the battle for and with evidences)

Re: Consecration (the battle for and with evidences)

by Schattenlied » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:49 pm

Impsie wrote:Only six abilities in Vanilla scale with Attack Power:
Eviscerate
Ferocious Bite
Garrote
Rake
Rip
Rupture

Consecration did not gain AP scaling until WotLK. It only scales with 33% of your spell damage.

So much for Blizzlike I guess eh?



You forgot Bloodthirst :D
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Re: Consecration (the battle for and with evidences)

by stimz » Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:13 am

smilkovpetko wrote:sp already scale , but attack power should not work with this .

I presented them all evidence that it never scaled with ap.

Therefore they denied without evidence.


Ah, you finally see the light.
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Re: Consecration (the battle for and with evidences)

by smilkovpetko » Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:42 am

stimz wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:sp already scale , but attack power should not work with this .

I presented them all evidence that it never scaled with ap.

Therefore they denied without evidence.


Ah, you finally see the light.


About Seal of Righteousness

https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2762

did you see this light ?

2nd bugreport denied based on assumptions throwing and ignoring 80% of the evidences

And you are telling me about light when our main tanking ability is wiped off ?
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Re: Consecration (the battle for and with evidences)

by Dr. Doom » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:42 am

On top of the very good work that the OP has done (tbh it seems through, entirely solid and convincing), I have to ask.... does it really make sense in your thick skulls for a holy based spell dmg to scale of Attack power?
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Re: Consecration (the battle for and with evidences)

by smilkovpetko » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:35 pm

And there we are , another hell of a crazy bug that is crushing and not allowing us Protection Paladins to tank properly :


https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=3585

Crowd controlled targets build aggro from healing , where they should never ever build up aggro from healers when they are under CC.

I mean if someone is most fucked up in server from Bugs , then this is Protection Paladin.

1- Seal of Righteousness suck compare to how it suppose to work.
2- Summon Mobs/Pets are not affected by our Aggro.
3- Healers build up aggro to Crowd Controlled targets when they should never build up aggro.

This is getting frustrating and ridiculous and i mean that . If server doesn't take step and fix our Gamebreaking Bugs i will spit and will Quit .

Nano also don't give a fuck about us and exciting awaiting to set our report to invalid without any investigation or knowledge.
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Re: Consecration (the battle for and with evidences)

by smilkovpetko » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:44 pm

I just appeal to everyone , please take step and support us , please help and raise the voice our 3 Gamebreaking Protection Paladin bugs to get fixed. Without them we are not able to play properly our role. So annoying
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Re: Consecration (the battle for and with evidences)

by smilkovpetko » Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:37 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfmOkBY4Xtc

Uploaded on Nov 15, 2006


There is your evidence that Consecration should never scale with attack power in Vanilla


The only damage increase it gets is from Judgement of the Crusader and Zandalari Trinket (look careful at his buffs and enemy debuff)
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Re: Consecration (the battle for and with evidences)

by smilkovpetko » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:45 pm

another video with evidence that does not scale consecration with attack power

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMDhMb3rV70
Uploaded on Oct 27, 2006
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Re: Consecration (the battle for and with evidences)

by smilkovpetko » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:34 pm

and here we are again :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1_jBM9Jkpk
Uploaded on Nov 5, 2006

watch at 6:29
this guy crit with melee swing that proc vengeance
he use consecration and his consecration tick 58
then he use seal of the crusade (attack power)
then he use consecration tick 50
then he use seal of wisdom
he got vengeance proc and consecrate tick again 58
he consecrate using seal of wisdom and vengeance
his consecrate tick again 58
his vengeance runs off
his consecrate tick again 50

Evidence - it didn't work with attack power
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Re: Consecration (the battle for and with evidences)

by Imbaslap » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:15 am

http://vanilla-wow.wikia.com/wiki/Consecration
http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/4421-spell-bonus-coefficients/
http://cmangos.net/thread-6605.html
http://wow.allakhazam.com/wiki/spell_coefficient_(wow)
http://paladinsucks.blogspot.mk/2006_01_01_archive.html siff through the archives on the right side back to the dates with patch's and see if you can dig up anything.
http://forums.elitistjerks.com/forums/topic/9354-damage-coefficients/
http://paladin-guide.blogspot.com/ scroll down to the paladin part.
"+ healing and + spell damage


These items add a bonus to heals or damage spells. However the number advertised on the item doesn’t represent reality. Only a fraction of the total bonus is added on the spell depending on factor like casting time, etc.
From patch 1.10 we have this coefficients :

10% Seal of Righteousness with 1 handed weapon
12,5% Seal of Righteousness with 2 handed weapon
50% Judgement of Righteousness
20% Seal of Command
29% Seal of Command (only with +holy damage bonuses)
43% Judgement of Command
33% Consecration
43% Holy Shock
43% Hammer of Wrath
43% Exorcism
19% Holy Wrath
00% Blessing of Sanctuary ;_;
20% Holy Shield
00% Retribution Aura ;_;
71% Holy Light
43% Flash of Light
100% Eye for an Eye

This means for example that if you have +100 healing from items your holy light spell will get an increase of 71 hitpoints healed."

take a gander and see if you can spot anything about the AP and SP scaling.

anywho, off to bed. enjoy searching :)
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