DrearyYew wrote:Can't tank in raids because of our main mitigation being tied to being Crit, which is absolutely unacceptable when tanking bosses. There are a couple of situations where Paladin Tanks shine, like Nefarian adds or Suppression Room in BWL, but these instances are few and far between.
Retribution is a flexible pick that can heal, dps, or even tank in certain situations (see above). However, a Retribution spec'd Paladin will not be masters of any of them. They are often used in raid settings to be a flexible member that can do whatever is needed based on the nature of the fight. However, because guilds can be extremely tryhard and elitist, they often do not see any need for a Ret Paladin.
Holy is by far the best talent tree for a Paladin. They are just behind Priests in terms of healing effectiveness, and provide immense utility through blessings and auras. In later stages of raiding (AQ/Naxx), Holy Paladins become insanely powerful as they are virtually unable to run out of mana thanks to the Illumination talent.
In terms of PvP, there are obviously some differences. Prot is very effective against melee classes, but useless against anything else. Retribution is amazing if they accept their role as a support and not DPS - this is the mistake that most Ret Paladins make in PvP. Just sit back, throw some heals and blessings, and if someone gets in range of you, you have potential to one-shot. As for Holy, Holy Paladins are by far the best PvP Healers, and it isn't even close. They effectively trade off the 1-shot capabilities of a Ret Paladin, and in turn get greatly increased healing effectiveness and tankiness as they will always be wielding a shield.
Can't tank in raids because of our main mitigation being tied to being Crit, which is absolutely unacceptable when tanking bosses. There are a couple of situations where Paladin Tanks shine, like Nefarian adds or Suppression Room in BWL, but these instances are few and far between.This is clearly wrong , Our main mitigation is tied to Block by Shield , Sanctuary and Def cap . Whoever think that paladin should eat crits for Boss is stupid .
We are best AoE Tankers but what you just said about Raid Tanking is just stupid and wrong information.
Here is evidence that Paladin can easy Tank any Boss in raid :
Patchwerk = Hardest damage output toward soakers Tanks . (paladin do that job easy)
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 8473_o.jpgMaexxna = Hardest and Strongest damage output toward any Tank in game that exist.
(no boss can't hit harder than Maexxna) (paladin did that job easy again)
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 8017_o.jpgMelee Twins (immune to all spells but never immune to holy) Second Hardest Boss in Game that have high damage output toward any Tank in game that exist. (paladin did that job easy)
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 0711_o.jpgThe highest Aggro Intensive Boss in game where Warriors have extremely chance to fail on aggro. (paladin did that job easy like cake)
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 7949_o.jpgHakkar (last boss that "require taunt) is still easy and doable for those that know how to actually tank using Boss Mechanics (easy as Paladin)
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 1276_o.jpgSulfuron Harbringer Boss that got Multiple Adds , Warriors beside the fact that they tanking many targets , they are still under Paladin on Aggro which is on 1 Target compare to them.
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 6300_o.jpg@theunknowing , before someone brainwash you in game or servers i want to point out (as 10 years protection paladin and vanilla tanker).
What is our weakness :
1. Our abilities in Privacy Servers are extremely Broken and doesn't work.
2. Overall population knowledge is not based on Theory facts like we had in Retail before, it is just some false elitist delusional ideology .
3. You need to manage good your mana and use Spell Damage Weapon (remember in TBC) it is same as in Vanilla .
Don't forget : We have all the required tools and Gear for every single Boss that exist in game , (including preraid def cap) and high Avoidance,Block damage etc. Our aggro is based on how much strong your Spell Damage Weapon is (including sp on weap ench , sp consumes etc) .
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Here is my Youtube Channel :
https://www.youtube.com/user/killerduki/videosHow Paladin looks like in Raid and Bossfight :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXV1lqIJr9wHow Paladins are special on aoe Kiting with support of mage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1_YEl0Yp8IDon't hesitate to visit my Youtube Channel for upcoming Nostalrius Videos how to play Protection Paladin.
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http://www.twitch.tv/killerduki