Transition from Holy to Retribution

Re: Transition from Holy to Retribution

by Taladril » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:34 am

The results are in. As far as off spec dps goes, ret is without a doubt at the bottom of the barrel with shamans coming in a close second. Rets viability is virtually identical to a holy paladin. Choose meager dps with utility or a fully capable healer with utility? Or skip the utility because you have enough holys and bring a real dps to the fight. At least druids, priests, and shamans provide an ancillary buff to others in the raid. If you have enough holys you don't need another aura or blessing.

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Re: Transition from Holy to Retribution

by Imbaslap » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:38 am

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Re: Transition from Holy to Retribution

by smilkovpetko » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:02 am

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... t=16012806

Look how this lovely Retribution Paladin crushing bones and Teeths to all those lovely so called "Viable" dps classes on 1 Target Boss.

Enough from trashtalk .
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Re: Transition from Holy to Retribution

by Imbaslap » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:03 am

smilkovpetko wrote:http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/FightOverview.aspx?Raid=20160&Fight=16012806

Look how this lovely Retribution Paladin crushing bones and Teeths to all those lovely so called "Viable" dps classes on 1 Target Boss.

Enough from trashtalk .

you know he does more damage on his shit geared warrior now.. http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/FightOverview.aspx?Raid=26470&Fight=11012210
imagine if all these try hard ret pallies rerolled to another class how much higher and viable they would become. :ugeek: :ugeek:

I guess it feels good to crawl to the pooper every morning(ret pally) when you could just stand up and walk to the pooper(every other class).

still 3 times less then the top warrior sadly. http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/FightOverallOverview.aspx?FightName=Golemagg%20the%20Incinerator&realm=NRB
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Re: Transition from Holy to Retribution

by moodirun123 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:21 am

Feels even better playing what you enjoy and like playing instead of what someone else says you should .. is it as efficient .. no ..viable.. yes
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Re: Transition from Holy to Retribution

by Taladril » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:38 am

Top DPS of each class in order of rank:
Rank.....DPS.....Class
1...........828.5....Warrior (Monkeynews)
3...........799.1....Rogue (Maitoz)
14.........656.1....Warlock (Koruu)
23.........632.7....Mage (Vujke)
92.........512.5....Hunter (Marisi)
197.......446.8....Druid (Afroboyjoe)
300.......417.1....Priest (Mystgunnerr)
1215.....266.7....Shaman (Roji)
1471.....223.8....Paladin (Holystrike)

Don't worry, I'm sure pallys will be able to make up the dps difference when aq comes out. They only have to double what they are doing to get to fearl druids or triple it to get to warlocks. Only takes 4x the dps increase to match stupid dps warriors!
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Re: Transition from Holy to Retribution

by DrearyYew » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:42 am

Oh man, look at all of these cherrypicked statistics!

As I said in my post, Ret DPS is subpar, even more so until AQ gear and gear updates. HEY, GUESS WHAT, THESE HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET! Ret itemization was piss poor until this point. Shaman, Druid, and Priest DPS itemization actually makes sense at this point.

Even then, YOU DON'T TAKE RETS IF YOU WANT PURE DPS. If you want pure DPS, you take a fucking Warrior. Rets bring utility that a Warrior doesn't bring, and Warriors bring more damage than a Ret brings. I'm not saying they deserve a priority raid spot, I'm not saying you should have 8 Rets in a raid. I'm saying you can bring 1 or 2 for the utility they bring, which should be strongly considered if you are Druid heavy (for whatever reason) and are lacking Paladins for blessings.
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Re: Transition from Holy to Retribution

by smilkovpetko » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:45 am

Well no wonder that 2x of Blacklisted officers trashtalking nonsense where :

1- Retribution Paladin is most bugged DPS Class in server and issue major nerf due to broken abilities.
2- Incompatible patch abilities that does not match with the current server Paladin set Gear.
3- Still even with all those issues mention above you have Retribution Paladin Crushing bones and teeth on single target Boss http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... t=16012806 .

Good to see how bad name those 2 officers gives to their foolish Blacklisted Guild by trashtalking nonsense .

And yes : https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 9804_o.jpg

Good Luck.
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Re: Transition from Holy to Retribution

by Taladril » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:48 am

I'm not sure how the top dps of each class is cherrypicking. Seems like a perfect comparison of the best of the best trying their best to show the classes highest potential dps output. Guess that means I'm cheating to show it. It's no secret that pretty much any druid who is a serious feral will be higher than any paladins. And I thought we brought ferals for the utility. Do we consider holy pallys to be some kind of raid rarity? We haven't ever had that problem. And I'll repeat that holy pallys are excellent healers and prove their raid spot repeatedly and can do all of that great utility that rets can...
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Re: Transition from Holy to Retribution

by Taladril » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:53 am

smilkovpetko wrote:
Good to see how bad name those 2 officers gives to their foolish Blacklisted Guild by trashtalking nonsense .

And yes : https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 9804_o.jpg

Good Luck.

Yeah I'm extremely concerned about our lack of ret with AQ approaching. Imba promised to take me to the promised land and I don't think we're gonna make it!
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