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Ret Pve Tips/Guide

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:55 am
by Smiter
First off to prove that I know what I am talking about and that these ways work:

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Playe ... yer=Smiter

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidO ... Raid=30279
(MC)

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidO ... Raid=30009
(BWL)

Key:
-SotC= Seal of the Crusader
-SoC= Seal of Command
-Conse= Consecration

Rotation:

2 choices for rotation:
-SotC rotation:Judge SotC> SotC (up at all times)>Spam max rank conse (only maintainable by Flask of Distilled Wisdom which you should be using with this rotation and can be used with any weapon speed but faster is better)

-SoC rotation: Judge SotC> R1 SoC (up at all times)> Max rank conse if vengence is up, if it is not then R1 (Supreme Power flask should be used with this rotation and only if you have a good 3.5 speed or slower weapon)

Consumables:

-Flask of Distilled Wisdom or Flask of Supreme Power
-Major Mana Potion
-Demonic/Dark Rune
-Elixir of the Mongoose
-Juju Might
-Juju Power
-Firewater
-Elemental Sharpening Stones
-Smoked Desert Dumplings
-R.O.I.D.S.

Gear: (Credit goes to DrearyYew for this gear list)

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=6548

Tips:
-Get Songflower Buff from Felwood, +15 to all stats and 5% melee/spell crit for 1 hour. Cleanse a corrupted songflower or pick a cleansed one for the buff.
-Try and leech a ZG Heart buff and Ony/Nef head buff whenever possible.
-Get Dire Maul buffs (200 attack power, 15% stam, and 3% spell crit) Requires you to get a cleared Tribute run and you talk to the 3 guards after you have the king buff.

-If 2 rets are in raid then stack R6 and R5 Judgement of the Crusader if allowed. If not allowed then one judge R6 SotC and other judge max rank Seal of Wisdom

Re: Ret Pve Tips/Guide

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:07 am
by Theloras
This is how Smiter makes Daddy Ret feel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEGiVaXpj94

Re: Ret Pve Tips/Guide

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:22 am
by Holystrike
if you are using R1 SoCom or Consec you are skimping on mana consumables you should always use max rank,

also you only listed roids, not including scorpok salt, any raiding ret should have both as they are unique.

You should never use flask of distilled wisdom over supreme power, that is nerfing your dps output.

Also a ret should use of oil of immolation on relevant fights

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And assessing your DPS in BWL; actually relevant content:

#13 Smiter 423384(196/s) 3.5%

Out of the raiding retribution paladins you come in 6th under Optilasgar, with the leading dps figures being 50% higher then your average

#1 Holystrike 299.8/s
#2 Dovane 242.6/s
#3 Miamie 236.4/s
#4 Krumbull 207.1/s
#5 Optilasgar 202.9/s
#6 Fluffydrake 193.4/s
#7 Tervel 177.7/s
#8 Morgrainne 134.0/s

You shouldnt try to boost your dps in irrelevant content through flasking where noone else is, I mean we dont even world buff for mc since we run it back on back with BWL, a comparison shows that there is only a 30 dps difference between you flasked and others unflasked.

your guide is lacking crucial elements and is recommending new rets skip on their consumables.

Re: Ret Pve Tips/Guide

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:12 am
by Darkwinjax
This threads potencial just skyrocketed, proceed to amuse me.

Re: Ret Pve Tips/Guide

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:18 am
by Dariu
Off-topic

Re: Ret Pve Tips/Guide

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:39 am
by Holystrike
Just checked you out I already have higher dps records on both Razorgore (255.3 vs 280.6) and Broodlord (480.2 vs 491.6) then you... lets see if i can grab some other fights in the coming weeks... mr warrior.

Re: Ret Pve Tips/Guide

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:44 am
by smilkovpetko
by Holystrike » Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:22 am
if you are using R1 SoCom or Consec you are skimping on mana consumables you should always use max rank,


^ this.

problem there Holystrike is that he don't have Intellect in his gear , so his mana can't be sustainable to follow the way you do .

That's what drearyyew always oppose me and calling me troll for saying that.

p.s i am working on my ret gear too , once i get it , i will post the actual dps .

Re: Ret Pve Tips/Guide

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:43 am
by Holystrike
Thats because hes built his gear incorrectly and has focused purely on physical stats the minimum requirement is a 3500 mana pool unbuffed, to raid as ret and even still id preffer to have closer to 3800...
anything lower and you are gimping your dps output.

He also lacks the minimum 8% hit requirement for pve

cool keen to check it out.

Re: Ret Pve Tips/Guide

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:52 am
by smilkovpetko
Holystrike wrote:Thats because hes built his gear incorrectly and has focused purely on physical stats the minimum requirement is a 3500 mana pool unbuffed, to raid as ret and even still id preffer to have closer to 3800...
anything lower and you are gimping your dps output.

He also lacks the minimum 8% hit requirement for pve

cool keen to check it out.


Well he already said which Guide he is following :

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=6548

by Smiter » Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:55 am
Gear: (Credit goes to DrearyYew for this gear list)


and this is what i have already discussed regarding this there :
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 40#p199117

instead i got called troll.

Re: Ret Pve Tips/Guide

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:07 pm
by Smiter
I do have my 8% hit. You are prolly looking at my pvp gear