Does Lifesteal currently scales with spellpower?

[Holystrike]

(edited and corrected by Killerduki)
over 1 minute this is on average
7 Judgements Per Minute = 6 procs
7 socoms = 6 porcs
17 swings = 6 procs
Total attacks: 31
Average Procs per minute = 10.85 (ROFL) = 18 procs
Average Proc Crits per minute = 2.17 (ROFL)
Average Damage Per Minute = 1127.8575 (ROFL) x3
DPS= 18.7 (ROFL) x3

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Enchant_W ... did=353636
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The reported proc per minute rate is for white damage. This enchantment has been confirmed to proc on attack abilities at the same rate as the proc per swing rate. Thus an adjusted per minute rate would be calculated by ppm+pps*(number of abilities used in a minute).

Patch 1.7

All item based self heals will no longer be effected by equipment that provides bonuses to healing. This change affects both the Arcanite Champion and the Crusader Enchantment.

There is lot to learn from us before you step over and correct our mistakes.

Another evidence of you still having no idea how things work and act like you know everything.


Theloras is correct completely when it comes to Nostalrius mechanics currently.

by Holystrike » Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:09 am
As it is plainly evident this enchant on its own actually deals relatively low dps; when vengeance procs off its crits however it will be amazing, I would also advise paladins away from intentionally investing too deeply into spell damage purely to boost this enchants damage as you will then sacrifice crit which boosts vengeance uptime which is litterally the entire point of this enchant.( having spell damage as ret is great but stacking it only and gimping other stats is terrible, as ballance is required for optimum dps )

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer ... Holystrike

Because this enchant gives too low "18" dps you have Holystrike himself using it with much lower spell damage than 150. (he have 45 only)

Now stop derailing the thread and allow theloras to continue helping people

I think you should just stick to trolling buddy that post was hilarious not even going to reply,

anyone who wants to check the actual theory crafting behind this enchant can verify my sources:

http://wow.gamepedia.com/Procs_per_minute : 6
(which is what the server is based on if you actually use procwatch and test it)

I think someone needs to give duki a math lesson...

Edit: just quoting this here for further ammusment incase he tries to change it.

[smilkovpetko]

Being stupid is not same as acting like stupid.

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Enchant_W ... did=353636

The reported proc per minute rate is for white damage. This enchantment has been confirmed to proc on attack abilities at the same rate as the proc per swing rate. Thus an adjusted per minute rate would be calculated by ppm+pps*(number of abilities used in a minute).

[Holystrike]

yeah i dont think you understand how that works and I am not going to teach you, goodluck.

done posting... before he tries to derail another thread.

[Theloras]

Just like the following abilities on Nostalrius are "Blizzlike" as well?

***Seal of Righteousness bugs***
Seal of Righteousness (SoR) should proc as a separate melee strike
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=3614

Seal of Righteousness not working properly
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2762

One-Handed Weapon Specialization (talent)
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=3202

***Seal of Command bugs***
Seal/Judgement of Command and weapon/item procs
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2839

Sanctity Aura
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=1344

Seal of Command (Delay)
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=1289

seal of Command Absorb Shield
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=1416

***Seal of the Crusader bugs***
Seal of Crusader
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=1241

***Misc. Paladin bugs***
[PALADIN] Vengeance not proccing on "spell" crits
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2825

Holy Resistance is on trash and bosses in BWL
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2871

Hammer of Wrath should not be resistible?
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=3302

Crowd Control Target Build Aggro on Healer
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=3585

Paladins are not able to gain Reck Bomb charges from low level mobs or critters
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=3623

Lifestealing enchant has a 50-60% proc rate and scales at 43% of spell damage currently on Nostalrius - and how do I know this?

Cause I have it on every single one of my weapons - both 1handed and 2handed - and I have first hand evidence from the Proc Watch add-on showing its proc rate compared to my white auto-attack hits.

Try testing something out first next time before spouting shit like this on the forums...

Maybe you should go back to your cabin:

Uncle Tom's Cabin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Tom%27s_Cabin

[smilkovpetko]

Lifestealing enchant has a 50-60% proc rate and scales at 43% of spell damage currently on Nostalrius - and how do I know this?

Rekt him with screenshot this as lesson , so he can learn more.

Inb4

by Holystrike » Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:09 am
chance to proc = 35% proc rate

[Holystrike]

you make me laugh man... you have proven my point, if you havent realised

regardless of whether blizzard used a different proc chance then myself, my original point that the direct damage dealing component of the enchant is low and not worth stacking excessive spell damage at the loss of major stats such as crit is absolutely correct; the math I used to calculate proc chance seems to be correct however so i question that forumals integrity as I will demonstrate (that one on wowwiki does not seem to check out if you test it for generated procs i.e too few)

Being stupid is not same as acting like stupid.
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Enchant_W ... did=353636

Note
This enchantment will give a purple glow to the weapon.
The enchantment has 6ppm (procs per minute), the healing and damage done can crit.
Chance on hit (%) = weapon speed * 7.87

pps (proc per swing) is determined by ppm/60*(weapon speed)

Chance on hit 3.5*7.87=27.545%

P.P.S 6/60*3.5=6/210=28.5%

So in reality if the wowwiki formula is correct the pure damage dealing function is far weaker i thought it to be, and only procs 27% of the time rather then 35%, amusing that you proved my point considering you did this unintentionally and was entirely counter-intuitive to your original argument.

Anyway how I calculated 35% for anyone wondering out there:
Time: 60 seconds
Weapon Speed: 3.5
Procs Per Minute: 6
therefor the formula to calculate the % of these swings which would proc would be:
Procs/(Time/Weapon speed)
i.e
60/3.5WS= 17 Swings per minute
if 6 are procs then the % of swings which proc are
6/17x100= 35%
Proc Rate: 35%

Lifestealing enchant has a 50-60% proc rate

lol...

check again....

Rekt him with screenshot this as lesson , so he can learn more.

whoosh



Anyway Im signing off the forums for a few days since you two seem to stalk me where ever i go cya.

[Xizt]

I dont understand why you guys go that hard at each other especially theoloras with your insults man.

even if you have a misunderstanding with each other why can you not try to figure it out in private and sort shit. no reason to make this bullshit like this.

[smilkovpetko]

I dont understand why you guys go that hard at each other especially theoloras with your insults man.

even if you have a misunderstanding with each other why can you not try to figure it out in private and sort shit. no reason to make this bullshit like this.

Holystrike , after everything he learn from us , he came here to stab us and attack / offense us .

If you read his previous posts you would see that.

As for Holystrike :

Note
This enchantment will give a purple glow to the weapon.
The enchantment has 6ppm (procs per minute), the healing and damage done can crit.
Chance on hit (%) = weapon speed * 7.87

pps (proc per swing) is determined by ppm/60*(weapon speed)

Being stupid will always be stupid and forever stupid .

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Enchant_W ... did=353636
Revision as of 01:43, December 4, 2006

The reported proc per minute rate is for white damage.

Meanwhile for special attack the rule does not apply .

This enchantment has been confirmed to proc on attack abilities at the same rate as the proc per swing rate. Thus an adjusted per minute rate would be calculated by ppm+pps*(number of abilities used in a minute).

Maybe you are not stupid , but your brain is unable to comprehend the meaning of this ^ .

And don't forget :

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 5553_o.jpg

The Day when i was Teaching you how to DPS , see yourself using Crusader Enchant when we told you to Replace that.

Also the day when i was teaching you to don't use Seal of Righteousness or Seal of the Crusader , and the day i teach you that Seal of Command is best Seal for you in raid.

[Theloras]

I dont understand why you guys go that hard at each other especially theoloras with your insults man.

even if you have a misunderstanding with each other why can you not try to figure it out in private and sort shit. no reason to make this bullshit like this.

He's being a complete douche both in whispers to me and on the forums not only to me, but also Duki and Smiter and needs to be put in his place as a result.

As I said in my Ret guide, while there are some builds/playstyles that I may disagree with due to the current bugs on Nostalrius, I would never absolutely shit on someone in the public forums about it, or call for them to be banned for bug abuse, or say that they're fucking stupid and don't know how to play a Paladin in the first place.

That's Holystrike for you and he's behaving worse than the worst forum trolls because he's a Ret Paladin himself and both Duki and I have provided him with info/tips/advice at length on how to better himself.

[Theloras]

regardless of whether blizzard used a different proc chance then myself, my original point that the direct damage dealing component of the enchant is low and not worth stacking excessive spell damage at the loss of major stats such as crit is absolutely correct

You should go back to school and take a refresher course on reading comprehension cause...

me saying that Lifesteal scales at 43% of spell damage =/= stacking spell damage instead of STR/Crit gear