justclassic wrote:smilkovpetko wrote:
GZ for TF but ain't that good threat, go get neffy mace!.
It's by far the craziest threat weapon in the game. Especially for paladins which don't rely on daggers for faster heroic strikes. I don't see how 84 spellpower would ever outweigh a 13dps disadvantage + a 300 damage procc with 25% procc chance from white hits and specials. (source:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=703 )
But I hope you can enlighten me as
smilkovpetko wrote:I play since 2005 this Game and i know how my role work 100%.
First of all , TF is OP Threats for Warriors and
not for Paladins.
Especially for paladins which don't rely on daggers for faster heroic strikes.
We are not Warriors and we have different working Abilities, we don't need to gain Rage for more Heroic Strikes and so on.
I don't see how 84 spellpower would ever outweigh a 13dps disadvantage
Here is simple Education for you since this is not my first time to argue with you regarding stuffs you trash talk without any practice :
don't know how good lifestealing scale in nostalrius ,but if it is working blizzlike then 30 SP is more threats , considering the fact that SP increase all our Holy damage thus Holy damage is our threat generator .
Aura Stone > Energetic rod (because of more SP+extra Mp5+extra Int)
If you have under 150 Spell Damage , slower weapon produce more threats , if you have 200+ Spell Damage , faster weapon produce more threats.
Swing speed vs Swing Damage.
Swing Holy damage should be higher or equal to 200 in order to focus on more speed to burst higher threats.
Just Example using SP
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 53#p263215That was only SoR , but consider JoR scale on much higher amounts which extremely helpful for "Taunt" purposes , Holy Shield which is our top 1 Threat Generator which produces 20% extra threats from the existant "90" % threats.
And as last words :i never seen better weapon enchant or weapon which produce high enough threats for Consecration than SP Weapon (talking about existant equal level gear quality)or SP Weapon Enchant.
(waiting for Crusader to proc in order to use Consecration is bad idea)
Currently in Nostalrius situation (considering bugged ap consecration scaling) threats Values:
SP>Block>AP>Parry>SP HiT>SP Crit>Crit>Mp5>Intellect>Spirit
Q/A:
Q. Why SP?
A. Increase to all abilities "Holy" Damage which produce 90% extra Threats.
Q. Why AP?
A. Because Consecration in Nostalrius is bugged beneficial and scale with Attack Power at equal rate as Spell Power (they both working same)
Q. Why Block?
A. Because our major mana efficient vs threat generator abilities benefit from this stat "Holy Shield" which cost low mana and produce 20% extra Holy Threats and Blessing of Sanctuary which cost 0 mana and produce extra Holy Threats.
Q. Why Parry?
A. Reduces your next swing down to 1.0 Speed and benefit Seal of Righteousness and Physical Hits (that both get increased by One-Handed Weapon Specialization) "currently bug waiting to get fixed".
Q. Why Spell Hit rating?
A. We lack Taunt! Similar version to Taunt is Judgement of Righteousness which damage get reduced by level partial resists , Spell Hit reduce the damage penalty , also Exorcism against Undeads which is top 1 threat generator using low mana benefits same as Judgement of Righteousness
Q. Why Spell Crit ?
A. Similar to Spell Hit but three times more efficient due to extra threat generation not just by the increased damage but the natural critical threat generation explained by Kenco's Guide.
Q. Why Crit ?
A. Don't underestimate the white swings , they might produce low threats but because of one-handed weapon specialization their damage is still high and thus are part of our +threats , maybe on lower scale but each Critical hit benefit extra amount of threats explained by Kenco's Guide.
Q. Why Mp5 at low priority?
A. It is good stat to have but useless compare to mention stats above as the whole situation get solved using Demonic Rune/Dark Rune and Major Mana Potion which are more than enough to handle infinite duration of fight. Still bonus if you have it as extra judge or holy shield is ok.
Q. Why Intellect lowest priority?
A. If you manage good your Consumes , if you have enough Spell Damage , if you have Raid Buffs then this Stat is completely useless considering the fact that you are not Class to spam abilities . Still ok for extra mana to have more control over wasted Consecration at wrong position.
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