[PvP] The BiS for the current content (updated for 1.8!)

Re: [PvP] The BiS for the current content (updated for 1.8!)

by Rubis » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:53 am

I would say that 2xRing of Spell Power are still a better combination than 1xRoSP + 1xMindtear Band , as you end up with 11%+ hit from gear with the current "BiS list".
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Re: [PvP] The BiS for the current content (updated for 1.8!)

by Lazermon » Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:48 am

mindtear band gives crit, what do you mean?
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Re: [PvP] The BiS for the current content (updated for 1.8!)

by Rubis » Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:05 am

Lazermon wrote:mindtear band gives crit, what do you mean?

I cant read obviously :roll:
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Re: [PvP] The BiS for the current content (updated for 1.8!)

by Codeine » Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:52 pm

BiS for 1.9?
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Re: [PvP] The BiS for the current content (updated for 1.8!)

by Lazermon » Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:24 pm

I have as a habit to update the post a day or two before release.
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Re: [PvP] The BiS for the current content (updated for 1.8!)

by Yodarion » Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:00 pm

I think he asked for it to be sur that we don't roll for an item that will be useless on a fire spec.
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Re: [PvP] The BiS for the current content (updated for 1.8!)

by Dreez » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:47 pm

might be worth looking into these kinda items, at least for honorable mentions:
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=20686
according to reports 22 add dmg is possible

https://web.archive.org/web/20060307171 ... item=20686
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BoP Cloth
Shoulder
72 armor
13 stam
13 int
15 dmg healing and spells
rockbiter 3
requires lvl 60
improves chance to hit with spells by 1%
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Re: [PvP] The BiS for the current content (updated for 1.8!)

by Lazermon » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:29 am

ugh I remember farming materials for those shoulders, such a pain. I'l add them to honorable mentions.
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Re: [PvP] The BiS for the current content (updated for 1.8!)

by Lazermon » Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:32 pm

Alright, so.

Ignite gives you 210% increased critical damage instead of 200%, fireball instead of frostbolt means you get 100% of your spellpower instead of 81,4%.

I've counted the total SP from my supposed BiS list for AQ40 and found it to be 914 SP.
I've counted the intelligence on the gear and I got the intelligence to give approx. 6%, world buffs give you ~19% (~+1 from hakkar) and gear + brilliant wizard oil give you another 9%. Critical Mass gives 6% and combustion gives 1-5% depending on the length of the fight and your crit chance (low crit chance and short fight makes combustion best). This gives you a total of ~42% with world buffs (valuing combustion as 2%) and ~24% without (valuing combustion as 3%).
The hit should be 98%.

using the BiS (which I will update this thread to when aq40 gets a couple of days within release), I get these numbers:
1 crit = 13.86 SP without world buffs (24)
1 crit = 11.98 SP with world buffs (42)
1 hit = 16.25 SP
if you instead have 764 sp (not flasking):
1 crit = 12.55 SP without world buffs
1 crit = 10.85 SP with world buffs
1 hit = 14.72 SP

So far, the only interesting slot that made this worth it was the head slot, Enigma Circlet vs Mish'undare. it comes down to 1 hit (enigma circlet) vs the 2 sp and 1 crit of Mish'undare.
As you see, Enigma Circlet is slightly better, where the two closest scenarios are when you dont have any world buffs. With flask theres a 0.39 sp advantage for mish'undare and without flask that advantage is 0.17 sp. Obviously these are very small numbers and you may just as well wear the fanciest one (Enigma Circlet *cough* *cough*).

Then we have Enigma Shoulderpads vs Mantle of the Blackwing Cabal, where we need to figure out if spellpen does anything at all, and if it does, how much. the difference here is 10 spell pen vs 4 SP.

Some things may not be in the game on release, and if that's the case, things will have to be adjusted. Hopefully the aq40 PTR will give more information on boss resistances and items.

I haven't looked into the ignite mechanics anything at all, so this is just the starting point where I assume your ignites will always be up and always deal all of its damage. (yeah this means I've done basically nothing at all so far)
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Re: [PvP] The BiS for the current content (updated for 1.8!)

by Dervin20 » Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:57 pm

Once you are fire r10 shoulders +r7 boots are bis till naxx.

If you have rank 13 wear that untill you have black blizzard, and on any fight that you might die , which is a lot in aq40.
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