Discussion on why horde pugs crush ally pugs

[Jarek]

op paladin

[Dongabhana]

In this recent AB weekend, I noticed Stoney who enters a bg and then uses his macro which goes something like:
1) 1 stay farm
2) 10 to bs
3) rest to lm
Whether you agree on his disposition or not, this is a man with a plan. And as a Horde pugger myself, I welcome this. Now, I dont know if Alliance's got these type of players, but it might be a difference if we got a lot and Alliance doesnt.

[Simonich]

Hey I leaded in ABs last weekend and this is one of the scenarios I've been into

[newtee2]

In this recent AB weekend, I noticed Stoney who enters a bg and then uses his macro which goes something like:
1) 1 stay farm
2) 10 to bs
3) rest to lm
Whether you agree on his disposition or not, this is a man with a plan. And as a Horde pugger myself, I welcome this. Now, I dont know if Alliance's got these type of players, but it might be a difference if we got a lot and Alliance doesnt.

Noone talks in our pugs lol

[newtee2]

Mages, rogues, shamans, and warriors.

9/10 horde side will have 5 mages. They are tryhard edgy undead mages who constantly double pot, use engi boots and anything else they get their hands on. Theyve been playing mage since 2005, they are geared (tons of money from dm e farming), and they will tear you apart with just their instant casts. Also healing shamans who give warlord wars windfury who then proceed to 1shot anyone.

and then you woke up ,and realised horde actually is gy camped in matters of prem vs prem since the start of the server. So where is your theorycrafting then? the problem is alliance geared pvp orientated players play in premades because its more honor while horde mix in the pugs (because its arguably better honor) so there you have retri human male paladins with aD trinket vs ranked horde players in pug dont blame it on racials or other bullshit please, Alliance > horde any time m8, we have paladins and there is nothing that will ever counter that.

Ret paladins? Lol. Enh is way better. I have yet to join a legit premade so I hope you're right.

We also need more ally to join wpvp.

[Colezz]

Mages

i have to agree on this point. nearly every ab horde stacks mages with double iceblock who can literally aoe our whole team to death. it honestly so shit.

AB is designed for horde to win...

and Riplin is a 2boxer, 2boxed his priest Ripsin to 60

Wat ..... give me stables gy over farm gy any day of the week

farm/bs/lm trio is so easy to defend it's not funny. graveyards make no difference lol

[vathdaar]

Ret paladins? Lol. Enh is way better. I have yet to join a legit premade so I hope you're right.

you didnt get the point, but thats exactly what im saying :

Alliance do premades getting the pvp minded(and geared) players in their grps, while aliance pugs are just chinese and puggers with hardly any gear with a high percentage of USELESS retri paladins. therefore you have the big difference of winrate in PUGS.

But when it comes to premades alliance can count on Holy paladins, which are by far the best support class in the game and alliance will always have advantage in that scenario, no matter how many vurtnes, orcs or w/e come into the formula: paladins(holy) > any racials.

[Granulat]

There are 2 major reasons to why alliance perform worse.

The first is because of the premades. Allys got at least 2 strong premades running primetime. These ally players are good and know their class obviously because they play a lot. Because they are locked into a premade they can't contribute to the other games where pugs are forced to fight and get beaten.

Reason number two is that since horde every now and then gets put against a premade where they have close to 0% chance to win they will instead take the games against pugs on a more serious level. Just clicking up scoreboard and see that you are not matched against a premade will instantly boost horde morale. That means they will contribute more.


Another less significantly reason is that alliance got nightelf warriors. For some reasons theese always suck dick. There is in fact not one single good nightelf warrior on the entire Nostralius. The whole lot sucks so much ass it's not comparable to anything we can relate to in modern human time.