Discussion on why horde pugs crush ally pugs

[Fubbzy]

The sad state of alliance AB has caused this poor Arathor Emissary to drink his problems away
http://imgur.com/p5bP5LN

[Riplin]

As stated above, Horde tends to have more of a pvp mentality but also A LOT more of a Rambo mentality. That's why you see so many solo bg heroes running around and no healers. Allies love to support and win. Horde just want to kill maim destroy, and hopefully that leads to a win.

Allies always have 2-4 people defending every base, faithfully, for long periods with no action while Horde is constantly screaming at each other because bases are left empty or with only 1 defender. Standing around not getting kills or honor from kills sucks, right?

So let's look at AB. Allies rush BS with their zerg and mass healers, so they easily defeat the Horde with no healers. They jump to a 3-2 lead early because Horde continues to think they can get BS with no healers. Then Horde spreads out and with some struggle, generally will take a 3rd base.

How does this happen more often than not?

Because all the "good" Ally players are running premades only so they can roflstomp their way to a million honor each weak since Horde runs no premades.

That means the "good" Horde players are spread randomly throughout the pugs. Sometimes you just get a Horde put with multiple really good players.

I think it's toxic. Either both sides should run premades, or there should be no premades but the current system doesn't support it for Horde because they have twice as many people queueing BGs.

[mcpw]

AB is designed for horde to win...

and Riplin is a 2boxer, 2boxed his priest Ripsin to 60

[Riplin]

LOL the clowns on this board sometimes I wonder why even post a reasonable response to something.

[kanem]

As stated above, Horde tends to have more of a pvp mentality but also A LOT more of a Rambo mentality. That's why you see so many solo bg heroes running around and no healers. Allies love to support and win. Horde just want to kill maim destroy, and hopefully that leads to a win.

I mind controlled Yousayso off LM. 2 Pallies instantly jump off also. But, really allies give up and are used to having things ez mode. Chinese hordes are usually the only ones I see afking at nodes. Majority of hordes enjoy pvp unlike the majority of allies who just want rep/honor.

[Novanthar]

I am on satellite, as I live in the woopods for now, until I move, but I enjoy PvP and play solely Alliance. In world PvP, I'm disgusted 85% of the time, with Alliance seeming so damned PASSIVE or dumb. I don't get it.

[newtee2]

Mages, rogues, shamans, and warriors.

9/10 horde side will have 5 mages. They are tryhard edgy undead mages who constantly double pot, use engi boots and anything else they get their hands on. Theyve been playing mage since 2005, they are geared (tons of money from dm e farming), and they will tear you apart with just their instant casts. Also healing shamans who give warlord wars windfury who then proceed to 1shot anyone.

[newtee2]

I am on satellite, as I live in the woopods for now, until I move, but I enjoy PvP and play solely Alliance. In world PvP, I'm disgusted 85% of the time, with Alliance seeming so damned PASSIVE or dumb. I don't get it.

If you're 60 and down to wpvp sometime hit me up.

[Maggotfiend]

AB is designed for horde to win...

and Riplin is a 2boxer, 2boxed his priest Ripsin to 60

Wat ..... give me stables gy over farm gy any day of the week

[vathdaar]

Mages, rogues, shamans, and warriors.

9/10 horde side will have 5 mages. They are tryhard edgy undead mages who constantly double pot, use engi boots and anything else they get their hands on. Theyve been playing mage since 2005, they are geared (tons of money from dm e farming), and they will tear you apart with just their instant casts. Also healing shamans who give warlord wars windfury who then proceed to 1shot anyone.

and then you woke up ,and realised horde actually is gy camped in matters of prem vs prem since the start of the server. So where is your theorycrafting then? the problem is alliance geared pvp orientated players play in premades because its more honor while horde mix in the pugs (because its arguably better honor) so there you have retri human male paladins with aD trinket vs ranked horde players in pug dont blame it on racials or other bullshit please, Alliance > horde any time m8, we have paladins and there is nothing that will ever counter that.