Best PvP idea for dodgers

[akbuilder1]

Remove group queuing and the afk problem is fixed, and it would make the bg experience 100x better for everyone. Its not like people premading are doing it for fun, they do it to get easy wins and top standing for the week.

No group queue= no problems.

[Slicy]

Remove group queuing and the afk problem is fixed, and it would make the bg experience 100x better for everyone. Its not like people premading are doing it for fun, they do it to get easy wins and top standing for the week.

No group queue= no problems.

Not sure if you're a troll or being serious here. I'll assume you mean what you said.

You're stating that a minority of players grouping as a full team and playing together is ruining pvp and make people go afk.

- What about the people that are queuing with just a couple of friends to have some fun, be it vs pugs or premades ?
- What if I don't want to play every single game with complete randoms that can't even speak 3 words of english on an international server in a mmorpg whose pvp rely on communication and team play way more than solo deeds ?
- The afk problem isn't entirely due to facing a full premade. Making it pugs vs pugs would probably lead to everyone their own shit disregarding the battleground's objective, making even more players to go afk.
- Group queue is blizzlike and this server aims to be as close as blizzlike as possible.

In a nutshell : if you're that annoyed by premades and pugs going afk when they face them, I suggest you man up, grow some balls and start your own premade with voice comm to actually get some challenges and fun out of vanilla pvp.

And no, this is not coming from someone who is grinding ranks with a premade.

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I suggest you man up, grow some balls and start your own premade with voice comm to actually get some challenges and fun out of vanilla pvp.

How exactly is forming a premade related to fun & challenging?

[vathdaar]

I suggest you man up, grow some balls and start your own premade with voice comm to actually get some challenges and fun out of vanilla pvp.

How exactly is forming a premade related to fun & challenging?

Dominating the PVP scene and facing other premades of diligent people? IT is.

[Apinanraivo]

How exactly is forming a premade related to fun & challenging?

Atleast the occasional premade vs premade games are more fun and challenging than playing together with challenged players in pugs.

[Slicy]

I suggest you man up, grow some balls and start your own premade with voice comm to actually get some challenges and fun out of vanilla pvp.

How exactly is forming a premade related to fun & challenging?

Even if you consider that premade vs pug isn't fun for the premade team nor the pug, at least you get to play with people you know and communicate with. You also get a chance to meet another premade (assuming no dodge, which is the point of this thread) and have a challenging BG.

He (not the OP) suggested to completely remove queuing as a group for a BG. If I had to chose between more premade vs premade teams happening or pug vs pug every game, I wouldn't chose the 2nd option just because the first one is fitting the whole Battleground idea way more.
As in, objectives oriented games in which team play can shine, instead of a complete (and rarely fun) chaos vs chaos with 2 afk/leechers, 2 trying to lead/call shots, 2 just yelling on everyone and the rest doing their own stuff.

If you want complete pug vs pug and enjoy chaos more than premade vs premade, then be patient and you'll be able to queue AV soon !

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Dominating the PVP scene and facing other premades of diligent people? IT is.

And how many legit good pre v pre games have you had compared to afk pug stomping?

Atleast the occasional premade vs premade games are more fun and challenging than playing together with challenged players in pugs.

Yes, and between those occasional games there's several hours of the least exciting version of pvp

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Assuming "no dodge" is the biggest mistake you can make, dodging won't go anywhere. Hell, I've even seen people who aren't ranking dodge stronger premades for a variety of excuses.

Not to mention that most rankers will almost never join a bg after they get their r13/14 so most premades will be composed of rankers = "we dodge because we need honor", it was like that on every other vanilla private server, and Nos won't be any different.

Anyways, I've had more fun games on this server by pugging ranks than I've had on previous servers by premading, so to each his own, I guess.

[Pugger]

I agree with this, and btw : to the retards saying <NOPE> are dodging or get free games...did you even stop for a second and think why horde is dodging us? its SIMPLE: they tried so many times and yet failed to win us that its not time worthy to play a 30 min game vs us and still get 0 honor...so blame THEM not us lol, i wish prem vs prem was a reality everyday everytime.


+1 for this.

Hmm you seem so proud of <NOPE> , why aren't you there anymore?

[redleader]

It was happening then it happened and now its far too late.
There are maybe 40/50 alliance joining 60 BGs right now,after NOPE gets their ranks expect that to be around 20 alliance PvPers in que...we wont even get AV before alliance stops joining all together.

[Slicy]

It was happening then it happened and now its far too late.
There are maybe 40/50 alliance joining 60 BGs right now,after NOPE gets their ranks expect that to be around 20 alliance PvPers in que...we wont even get AV before alliance stops joining all together.

I would like to know where you get your numbers from, especially "expect that to be around 20 alliances PvPers in que".
Don't forget that Alterac Valley will attract way more than just the regular players ranking up. Due to the rewards you can get from the faction's reputation, a massive amount of players will queue until they reach exalted, be it for items like TuF, the rings or the mount.
All the newly dinged 60 (and even the 50s) will queue AV as well.
You can expect 2-3 AVs constantly running at start and later on 1-2.