10-19 so abysmal

Re: 10-19 so abysmal

by Sham » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:23 am

diogenes wrote:
indianola wrote:warlock vs rogue is a notoriously difficult uphill battle for the warlock (and near impossible if the rogue is undead)


Id say its opposite. For rogue its very hard to beat SL warlock with void pet.
Undead racial wont help much since warlock doesnt need to fear, just dot and spam drain life
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Re: 10-19 so abysmal

by Zelious » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:33 pm

Let me get this straight. You guys like pvp where every class is 100% the same and every fight is "balanced"?

In real life competition, in video games pvp, there is always an advantage and disadvantage associated to each player. Overcoming the disadvantages, studying your opponent, using your advantages to your maximum extent, and a bit of luck- is what real competition is all about. If we are all exactly the same, it comes down to who does what first, and who has a better counter. That shits lame.

In classic pvp, I love running around being scared shitless of certain classes. It's realistic. Some classes own other classes, while some classes are gonna have a bad time if they run into that class. Like a poster above started to discuss, when you roll as a team.. As competition does since forever, your team composition compensates for any Rock Paper Scissors in the competition department. Then it becomes skill and using your advantages. If you're a warrior and you engage a Mage, you're asking for trouble. If you're a warrior and you got jumped by a Mage, run. It's pvp, we all die, we all win, it's all fun.

To say there is no competition when we are all playing the same game is an absolute bitchmade remark and reflects a loser personality. "Well.. Some classes kick my ass.. So this pvp sucks..so there!" Panseys.
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Re: 10-19 so abysmal

by AsEeL » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:04 pm

So what?

This is a vanilla server and most people know what vanilla was like. And if you don't, you will not get any shortcuts for sure! You pick this game and then start complaining about something everybody knows already?
Its like buying a car the vendor told you rides like shit and then you complain it rides like shit...

Maybe some people try to actually work their way around it !
So stop crying and go back to your retail...

I loved Vanilla 19 twinks and I din't play a rogue, I outsmarted them and powned them as I invested MONTHS to get the best twink on my server! I grinded endles reputation to get rewards, planned out all my gear and ran dungeons for weeks to get that one item and not try to level! Twinking was a challenge not the crap its now... It has nothing to do with powning low levels, it a playstyl. Discovering every single item, buff, possibility in the game.
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Re: 10-19 so abysmal

by Ohr » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:58 pm

Zelious wrote:
Ohr wrote:What competitive? There is absolutely nothing competitive PvP-wise in vanilla.


What a douchebag

It's a level playing field. We are all on the same patch, same server, same game. You saying you can't hang in vanilla? This sounds a lot like a salty dude who likes to make excuses. Just imagine him being pwned in game, starts screaming at his monitor, "BC WILL FIX THIS! IM WAY BETTER THAN YOU GUYS, NOT NOW BUT IN THE NEXT EXPANSION!!!!!!!!". that's how you sound making bitch posts. It's a vanilla server numb nuts,

Alright guys, I'm gonna roll on this vanilla pvp server. But I'm gonna bitch about vanilla pvp. Derp


Whoa, how salty can ya get, stretch? I'm having fun doing both pve and pvp. But calling it competitive is by far the best joke I've heard on these boards.
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Re: 10-19 so abysmal

by Ludovich88 » Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:06 pm

I always had a twink and will most likely twink again on here.

My perspective of twinking is in a certain way playing the game as you want to.
Making it a tad more interresting then to follow certain premade archetype way to play it.
Alot of research and some kind of creation happening through a certain passion.
The hunt for BiS is a one of a kind feel.

Now I understand you will say, 60s can do that too but the major difference is, specialy in vanilla, 19 gear wasn't planned out for twinks where as tier/pvp gears were made for it.
Also, the fact that the gear is mostly obtainable solo makes your character very personal and I believe valuable to its makers eye.

Playing 19 is to me, a very different game. Why you say?

Movement is very important:
-No mounts and less ability makes every single movement you do very crucial.
Ex.: No way to come over a movement mistake by quickly mounting and getting back in action.
If you know you're dying, dragging your opponents away from your team will have greater results.
Etc.

Quick fights:
-having a small lifepool and hard hitting spell/abilities makes for quick fights with alot of precombat thinking/planifying strategy. In some way, I personaly prefer that since it adds a somewhat more realistic feel to fighting.

Engineering and consumable:
-Playing with engineering is majorly impacting the gameplay whereas it is a must and become a part of your skill/ability rotation and strategy.
-Same goes for consumes/reagents, being lower level makes the consumable much more accessible in cost and become a part of your character. I see them as a self buff skill equivalent to poisons, fort, motw, etc.

Experience:
-Premade vs Premade are very intense due to passionate players and since twinkin is soloable, it is possible to have near full BiS players on each side and not wanting to dodge each others. Most players and specialy on a private server, twinked before and know the game and what to do jumping the skill level of fights much higher.

Community:
-most importantly, people who twinks stick together and build up a community of fun and cheers. At the end of fights, it is not rare to see someone logging on the opposite faction saying ggwp etc. People tend to be more skill oriented since BiS vs BiS = skill makes the difference.

This being said, I'm not posting this to change your mind.
It's simply my opinion and perpective of it.

I am in the process of making my 19 come to life and I will most likely have a few friend join me.
We are going to be alliance and will be playing in the near futur.

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Re: 10-19 so abysmal

by Bit » Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:57 pm

Ludovich88 wrote:Quick fights:
-having a small lifepool and hard hitting spell/abilities makes for quick fights with alot of precombat thinking/planifying strategy. In some way, I personaly prefer that since it adds a somewhat more realistic feel to fighting.


Huh? Twinks at 19 have huge lifepools. The health/damage ratio is easily three times as large as at 60 for maxed twinks.
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Re: 10-19 so abysmal

by Marcusius » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:48 am

pvp is unplayable here, constant delay lag...
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Re: 10-19 so abysmal

by Tekko » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:29 am

Twinks are just people that can't handle all the extra abilities you get at higher levels. They are generally bad players.
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Re: 10-19 so abysmal

by TheRatKing » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:24 pm

Tekko wrote:Twinks are just people that can't handle all the extra abilities you get at higher levels. They are generally bad players.


60s are just people that can't handle real life and can obtain hwl/gm gear and clear bwl in 69 hours. They are generally bad players.
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Re: 10-19 so abysmal

by Solmar » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:50 pm

Tekko wrote:Twinks are just people that can't handle all the extra abilities you get at higher levels. They are generally bad players.


Iv heard people say this all the time, tell me something, have you made a 19 twink? Have you been beaten down by one? Im just gonna assume its no for the first and yes for the second, so I would also assume you have a bias opinion against twinking because of that. Make a twink, then fight a twink. Tell me theres no skill then. Thank you
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