A MAJOR Flaw in the PvP Que System

[arOo]

Fact:
There is (almost) no enjoyable PvP in BG's eventhough I'm done ranking.
What can Nostalrius do about it:
- not hell of a lot but Blizzlike Q w/o Multiqueue is obiously the least exploitable system.
- Fix Class Spells, I'm happy to help out. Hit me up ingame, i have most of the working scripts on my Funserver.
(Even enjoyable Reflectors oh snap)

[Sevvy]

btw "Weteran" in game name is "Thatasshole" cry more because you can't make a decent premade and make some trade channel premade and get beat by nuwian xiao ling

Fixed.

[Sevvy]

only way to fix vanilla bg's is to remove the rewards from them so people actually play for fun instead of getting tryhard nerds 24/7 to enter them for a rank or bis gear. wishful thinking though.

This has always been my problem with MMO PvP. When you put gear rewards in there, you turn what should be PvP, into an instanced mini-game grind for gear.

I miss base wars, keep sieges, roaming 5-mans, etc. That shit was PvP.

[Weteran]

. And one of them even has the nerve to rub it in before he logs, "how are 30 minute ques treating you". Nostalrius, this is a disgrace...

You clearly said that some guy pmed you and asked you how are 30 minuete que ok now you wana cover up for yourself )

Sorry, bud. Don't know who you are but I'm going to assume that you're one of the people abusing the PvP system and doesn't want it to be fixed. The "salt" (as you guys like to say) is unreal from you, when I don't even know who you are.

Back to the matter at hand - Most of these guys are only playing on battleground weekends. They're able to farm that much honor by leaving open games for each other that they don't even have to play 3-4 days out of the week. You must not know the classic PvP system very well (or simply don't want it changed), but that is unheard of. It's ridiculous. If you want to continue to flex your retardation, go right ahead. But this isn't a premade vs premade thing, or who has the better premade, and you know it. It's a few groups of people leaving open games for each other, or one team purposefully letting the other have the win. It's abuse and exploitation of the PvP system. Again, don't know who you are, but please don't make me respond to your retardation again.

[kesomekgawad]

Weteran have a biscuit mate need make trade channel premade again to get beat by xiun nikng ling lang ping pong back peddle ling long

[Ohhgee]

Fix Class Spells, I'm happy to help out. Hit me up ingame, i have most of the working scripts on my Funserver.
(Even enjoyable Reflectors oh snap)

PLEASE SAVE US BASED ARONDRA

<3

[Weteran]

Weteran have a biscuit mate need make trade channel premade again to get beat by xiun nikng ling lang ping pong back peddle ling long

A real grinder playing all week - still playing - 3600 hks, 350k honor
http://www.realmplayers.com/CharacterVi ... ondsknocha

A wintrader played only on ab weekend 10 hours a day - hasn't played since - 3300 hks, 650k honor
http://www.realmplayers.com/CharacterVi ... r=Membrane
And 10 hours is a generous estimation from what I've observed.
Mind you the wintraders hks even came from the cooperative massive hk farm with the Alliance also

One of many examples.
Thank you.

[Arts]

A real grinder playing all week - still playing - 3600 hks, 350k honor

A wintrader played only on ab weekend 10 hours a day - hasn't played since - 3300 hks, 650k honor

People actually tried to explain what is going on to you, but you don't seem to be able to grasp it. Lets try it again step-by-step.

Step 1. Horde premade queues
Step 2. Instant queue vs Ally premade
Step 3. Horde stomps Ally premade
Step 4. Back to Step 1

Here is where it gets tricky.
Since ally honor cap is too high, Ally premade has 2 choices;

Solution 1. Split into 5-mans and try your luck vs horde pugs.
Result: If you split into 5-mans, Horde premade will have to split aswell. Since Horde will get higher quality rankers, you will lose OR win 3-2(best case). None of those are good enough to get br1, because you are racing against robots(aka Chinese).

Solution 2. Dodge the Horde premade and roflstomp Horde pug
Result: Weteran calls out Horde premade for wintrading.

Mind you the wintraders hks even came from the cooperative massive hk farm with the Alliance also

What you are describing here is a bad premade failing to dodge and getting graveyard farmed. It is a common thing in PvP however I guess you are new and can't be blamed for your ignorance.

Another quick fact
Last AB week's caps for Horde
br2: 525
br1: 650
This week's caps
br2: 525
br1: 650

I hope this highly detailed explanation finally made you understand. Are you not happy with the current queue system? Fine. State your opinion. However stop making wild claims without actually having any proof/idea about what is going on.

ps. Apologies to everyone else for making a huge wall of text.

[Weteran]

Arts - seeing as you've actually been apart of some of the premades that we're talking about and are most likely trying to defend them (ass kissing) in hopes of being a priority spot, you should really be apologizing for that huge wall of garbage.

Please read the original post.

1. Open games being left open for each other, empty maps, free 5 cap wins
2. Impossible to prove win-trading by Alliance and Horde sitting and farming each other, but highly stinks of it
3. Something needs to change

Edit: Also something you can't seem to understand. That most of these people, including the one mentioned above, have farmed all that honor with ridiculously low play time. The competition for these ranks without a manipulated system would be 16-20 hours a day. The win trader above hasn't played the whole day today, and logged off for more than 10 hours a night on the weekend. If you really knew the system, you would know that there are no breaks in Vanilla PvP for the brackets we are talking about, but manipulating the system has allowed it to happen. I guess you are new to Vanilla overall and can't be blamed for your ignorance.

I am finally starting to see why you whimps cry "China" so much. The amount of time that should be required to sit in battlegrounds for the higher ranks is enough to make any man go crazy, and the souless and mindless chinese destroy you in this aspect I guess. Even if you had the time, you would probably lose your mind. And you can't handle it, so you exploit and cheat the system. I hope this simple explanation can finally make you understand.

[Ana]

1. Open games being left open for each other, empty maps, free 5 cap wins

Are you still living in September? This doesn't happen ever since they removed multi queue.