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Re: Thank you Nost devs

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:20 pm
by Alyndra
Darkwinjax wrote:perhaps if the first rankers hadn't made deals with the chinese in order to avoid playing after sunday and did what the past month rankers have doing, the caps would be lower than they are now, and yea man aslong as you have more than 18 people who want br1 there will always be competition and if you can't make the br1 cap then it just means you either play in a worst premade and don't deserve to be there, or you are slacking and are not ready for the grind.


the early ching chong premades weren't the cancer they are now. they actually stacked better than most europeans (as in within 1 honor point of each other). but the more chinese came to nost the more they realized they had some leverage and no longer cared about bracket caps or tried to dictate their own. so EU prems had to outfarm them and bracket caps went through the roof. it was still easier to keep them at bay because they stood no chance vs horde prems (niko lol).

but without good horde to keep china in their place, brackets explode. the only thing that can change that is a better Q system, a forced enGB client or better prems on horde. imho

Re: Thank you Nost devs

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:56 pm
by Maggotfiend
Niko wrote:also love you Rob
Dont love for chinamates tho

cy@ banned foreverino



ill eat the ban for all china wintrade shit lord mto be banned
and everyone be happy like the real nostalgic feeling.


<3

please keep this coming pottu

Re: Thank you Nost devs

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:32 pm
by Dodgemade
[/quote]not sure why slicy is going apeshit but the truth is that by setting low caps for 5 months and having deals with the chinese only made it worse, the caps will always be higher if there are factions competing against each other, however I believe that this is better than having 6 br1 spots reserved from the get go to the chinese wintraders and account sharers who had been getting those spots for free due to people not wanting to go to war with them, it took the rankers alot of time til they saw the chinese of what they are, mongrels who can't compete in terms of honor per hour unless they are either wintrading or account sharing, it took weeks of super high caps to force them into wintrading and account sharing so that finally the GMs can take action, even though they were doing it before and somehow got magically unbanned after a "double check", apparently vitamine was wintrading again (they all are and they all account share if they have to compete and they will keep doing it because they have money involved, this is their job atm).

perhaps if the first rankers hadn't made deals with the chinese in order to avoid playing after sunday and did what the past month rankers have doing, the caps would be lower than they are now, and yea man aslong as you have more than 18 people who want br1 there will always be competition and if you can't make the br1 cap then it just means you either play in a worst premade and don't deserve to be there, or you are slacking and are not ready for the grind.[/quote]

you've got it backwards. perhaps if you hadn't driven caps up to insane levels in order to tire the chinese and also everyone else ranking, then hard working alliance players wouldn't have had to abandon their rank grind. no one liked the agreement but it was necessary. why? because there will always be chinas no matter how many times they are banned or harassed.

now the chinas will return shortly with new characters. you few who waged this war will be gone, leaving the hard working ally pvper's in the worst situation imaginable. which is a very upset group of chinese. and the only way they can take out their anger and frustration for being endlessly mocked, harassed, and finally banned is to get back at it and ruin everyone else outside of their money making scheme. if you think they account shared and win traded hard now, wait till you see version 2.0 with revenge in their hearts and blood in their eyes.

Re: Thank you Nost devs

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:15 pm
by Niko
Maggotfiend wrote:
Niko wrote:also love you Rob
Dont love for chinamates tho

cy@ banned foreverino



ill eat the ban for all china wintrade shit lord mto be banned
and everyone be happy like the real nostalgic feeling.


<3

please keep this coming pottu

mate <3

Re: Thank you Nost devs

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:53 pm
by Darkwinjax
Is it not up to you to outfarm them then? Time to take over where this generation left instead of striking deals with them, if the chinese are account sharing or wintrading you need 18h+ per day and 100% win ratio to compete until tuesday, keep in mind that in a blizzlike + no multiqueue system both of you will idealy be facing the horde premades the same amount of time, the current system gives them the advantage that the EU premade disbands the horde premades and china doesn't have to face them, if the system is reversed to how it should be then horde will have more incentives to play premade and the chinese won't be able to farm nearly as much honor as they do now.

If you wanted easy ranking with 12h per day til sunday = br1 then you joined the ranking system with the wrong mentality, you have to be mentality prepared to farm as much as possible if you want the br1 spot, hours should be of no concern to you if you want to compete with the chinese or anyone who is commited to their grind, that's just how things are and if you think you would be in a better spot with less 6 spots every week in br1 and competing with the chinese renegades who can't get a spot in the chinese premade (they also account share will def force you to play more than sunday i can tell you this much) then go ahead, me and slicy considered the situation to be dogshit and did something to try and change it, it's up to the next generation to decide how to handle the bracket situation but if you ask me you are in a better situation then 3-4 month ago.

Atm the chinese get banned for wintrading and account sharing, something that wasn't happening before, it's also public knowledge that they are selling their accounts and br1 spots for profit, we exposed them for what they are and tried our best to change the situation so that atleast cheaters and exploiters get banned for it and can no longer do that in the present.

Re: Thank you Nost devs

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:58 pm
by Maggotfiend
Darkwinjax wrote:Is it not up to you to outfarm them then? Time to take over where this generation left instead of striking deals with them, if the chinese are account sharing or wintrading you need 18h+ per day and 100% win ratio to compete until tuesday, keep in mind that in a blizzlike + no multiqueue system both of you will idealy be facing the horde premades the same amount of time, the current system gives them the advantage that the EU premade disbands the horde premades and china doesn't have to face them, if the system is reversed to how it should be then horde will have more incentives to play premade and the chinese won't be able to farm nearly as much honor as they do now.

If you wanted easy ranking with 12h per day til sunday = br1 then you joined the ranking system with the wrong mentality, you have to be mentality prepared to farm as much as possible if you want the br1 spot, hours should be of no concern to you if you want to compete with the chinese or anyone who is commited to their grind, that's just how things are and if you think you would be in a better spot with less 6 spots every week in br1 and competing with the chinese renegades who can't get a spot in the chinese premade (they also account share will def force you to play more than sunday i can tell you this much) then go ahead, me and slicy considered the situation to be dogshit and did something to try and change it, it's up to the next generation to decide how to handle the bracket situation but if you ask me you are in a better situation then 3-4 month ago.

Atm the chinese get banned for wintrading and account sharing, something that wasn't happening before, it's also public knowledge that they are selling their accounts and br1 spots for profit, we exposed them for what they are and tried our best to change the situation so that atleast cheaters and exploiters get banned for it and can no longer do that in the present.


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Re: Thank you Nost devs

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:31 am
by snawfu
Dodgemade wrote:drivel


very weird sense of entitlement to your rank, especially if you're not willing to put in the time to get it

Re: Thank you Nost devs

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:02 pm
by Niko
china