[Vote] Old "beta" character recovery

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Re: [Vote] Old "beta" character recovery

by venven » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:39 pm

I feel I need to give a bit of context.
Nostalrius as it used to be ("Nos 1.0") was a French server - hence the French GMs.
As explained before, the beta ended up at the beginning of 2012:

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For the record, end of beta announcement from February... 2012: https://web.archive.org/web/20120402194 ... lrius.org/


At this stage, there was absolutely no doubt about the status of the server, which aimed to be the most populated French server on the vanilla scene.

It never really worked : lack of advertising, competition from both international and French servers etc. About 200 people were online at peak time. The GMs took some initiatives in order to boost the population :
- instant 55 (you still could level your char from lvl 1 of course)
- cross-faction i.e you could group up with horde as an alliance and raid together

PVE wise it was easier than it is now on Nos 2.0 - obviously having both shams & pallys does help. However, bear in mind that it was extremely difficult to find enough players to raid, and the raids were almost never full. As an example, we were only 27 or 28 the first time we took Chroma down. Only two guilds made it to Chroma and only one killed Nefarian. Even if ALL these characters were to be fully recovered, I reckon it would have 0 impact on the server - if it's done at the right time i.e once bwl is farmed.

As for the instant 55, I'd say that the majority of the players used this option. Now, most of the players I know from Nos 1.0 played quite a long time there, enough time to make the 7-8 days of leveling irrelevant - had myself over 100 days of /played on my main. I quite like the idea of having to lvl a toon on Nos 2.0 to be able to recover a former char. This should be limited to one character though.

Pvp wise, the lack of population made it very difficult to reach the highest ranks. As myrulz said before, I can only remember 1 r14 & a few r13 - over several years. Even lower ranks such as r10 or 11 required quite a lot of efforts as you had to be top of your faction.

The economy was extremely different and it was easier to make money. The server was much older, hence more gold available. I would suggest a gold cap (100g ish) if any recovery was to happen.

We were testing AQ20 when the server was brutally closed, without prior announcement. The GMs decided to target a broader audience and to open an international server - the one you play on.

Now, I feel this isn't the right time to discuss a possible recovery of these characters - not untill BWL is released and cleared by quite a few guilds.

I hope this gives you a more in-depth understanding of the situation.

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Re: [Vote] Old "beta" character recovery

by Myrulz » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:32 pm

Perfect answer. I agreed everything.

not until bwl clean in boss factions.
even a 0gold cap actually would make sence.
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Re: [Vote] Old "beta" character recovery

by Svala » Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:54 pm

Myrulz wrote:The only acceptable argue they can have to denied this recovery is the only difference between the two servers. The instant 55.
So to actually make a recovery legit ? we should just lvl a 1-60 character on the new server and make the recovery on this char and the problem is solved.

I Agree.
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Re: [Vote] Old "beta" character recovery

by Armilus » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:54 pm

What does it matter if you played on the old Nostalrius or some other private server? You had a server you enjoyed playing on but it had a shitty population and they said "We're going to delete your characters and start fresh with 5000+ players".

I had a server I enjoyed playing on and it already had a good enough stable population and they said "We're going to delete your guild and permanently ban the guild master because fuck you. You are welcome to create a new guild and see what happens."

What I am saying is, trust me, I know exactly where you are coming from and in fact, I had it a lot worse. If I had an option to get my character restored with full T2 gear and legendary I would push for it as well, but not until well after AQ40 is out. I probably wouldn't expect it to happen until maybe after Naxxramas is out. Otherwise it would be an unfair advantage.
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Re: [Vote] Old "beta" character recovery

by rewind » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:03 pm

Armilus wrote:What does it matter if you played on the old Nostalrius or some other private server? You had a server you enjoyed playing on but it had a shitty population and they said "We're going to delete your characters and start fresh with 5000+ players".

That's not exactly what the staff said, they just delayed the question to later reason why people are asking here about those characters.
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Re: [Vote] Old "beta" character recovery

by OGTUCKER117 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:50 pm

No, beta characters should NOT be restored.
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Re: [Vote] Old "beta" character recovery

by Askental » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:23 pm

Armilus wrote:What does it matter if you played on the old Nostalrius or some other private server? You had a server you enjoyed playing on but it had a shitty population and they said "We're going to delete your characters and start fresh with 5000+ players".


They actually said the opposite: "We're NOT going to delete your characters, but they won't be available for a while." I think it's legitimate to, at least, ask for something you were promised.
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Re: [Vote] Old "beta" character recovery

by Svala » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:26 pm

OGTUCKER117 wrote:No, beta characters should NOT be restored.

Why? No argument.
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Re: [Vote] Old "beta" character recovery

by nervous » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:27 pm

Svala wrote:Why? No argument.


They were beta characters, not live realm characters. What's your argument for restoring beta characters? You tested the realm for years and didn't want that character to go to waste even though you knew you were playing on a beta?
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Re: [Vote] Old "beta" character recovery

by osmoZ » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:02 am

nervous wrote:
Svala wrote:Why? No argument.


They were beta characters, not live realm characters. What's your argument for restoring beta characters? You tested the realm for years and didn't want that character to go to waste even though you knew you were playing on a beta?



Did you just read previous posts before posting stupid things ?

It WAS NOT a "beta server".
It was a REAL LIVE french realm called Nostalrius. They just had not enough population after years so they closed it to open the "Nostalrius Begins".

On a real beta, (Nostalrius Begins beta for exemple) it was already said BEFORE the beta's opening that beta characters will not be recovered.
But there it wasnt a beta and even GM's said they could (under some conditions) be recovered after some months (if only you had read the thread, you would have known that).
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