Remove Dishonorable Kills

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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by Vorfidus » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:19 pm

Lyphen wrote:Bumping this. I've been in WorldDefense since I started and rarely see anything come up. Remove 'em, and we might see some fun World PvP again.

Um, dumbass? Yes, you. They already removed them.

P.S. Nice necro.
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by Simonich » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:23 pm

Vorfidus wrote:
Lyphen wrote:Bumping this. I've been in WorldDefense since I started and rarely see anything come up. Remove 'em, and we might see some fun World PvP again.

Um, dumbass? Yes, you. They already removed them.

P.S. Nice necro.


You sure they did?

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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by Vorfidus » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:24 pm

Edit: Ok they still exist... But who cares? If you're a high ranking PvPer, you'll be doing BGs trying to get rank, not open world.
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by Simonich » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:13 am

Vorfidus wrote:Edit: Ok they still exist... But who cares? If you're a high ranking PvPer, you'll be doing BGs trying to get rank, not open world.


The problem is many people would actually participate in world PvP events if dishonorable kills didn't exist.
Pvpers almost always also tend to try to rank, but as they do that they are not allowed to participate in town or city raids and have a different kind of fun. Its been so many times where people told me they don't want to join cause of dhks. We don't even want to kill them, it always happens on accident. While the town is under fire they just stand there not minding, eventually they get shot and everyone in the raid is punished for that, not the one who killed the civilian.

World PvP already is a really bad way to earn honor, but we also get punished for doing it. For a rank 9 its like losing 10k honor which is really much effort compared to an accident someone else did.

It doesn't serve much, we don't want to kill them at the first place, and those who want to, don't care about rank and do it for fun. Hell at least remove them from contested zones, you just kill the player and not the quest giver.

As I suggested before : give the penalty only to the one who lands the killing blow. Or make them unkillable, if this is a way to make people not gank quest givers, just make them unkillable. Just like the NPCs in starter zones.
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by Vorfidus » Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:30 pm

That's what I'm saying, its 2% of your rank. For lower ranks, it doesn't really matter much. Then again, the low ranks aren't that serious. The high ranks (usually 10-14), are in BGs 24/7 when they're logged onto get their required 1-1.4 million honor for the week. I've seen that grind. These guys log on in the morning, PvP all day, maybe raid sometimes, and don't go to bed until 3am. No time for raiding cities in there lmao.
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by Simonich » Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:04 pm

Vorfidus wrote:That's what I'm saying, its 2% of your rank. For lower ranks, it doesn't really matter much. Then again, the low ranks aren't that serious. The high ranks (usually 10-14), are in BGs 24/7 when they're logged onto get their required 1-1.4 million honor for the week. I've seen that grind. These guys log on in the morning, PvP all day, maybe raid sometimes, and don't go to bed until 3am. No time for raiding cities in there lmao.


And the mid rankers? I'm talking about ppl with rank 5-10. And they the most common ones. It still huge damage, that 2%. What I now is that people denied to come with me cause of civilians
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by strict89 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:00 pm

I'm sorry for necro bumping, but to me disabling DH kills was clearly a bad decision. Server is too overpopulated, and the amount of scumbags is too high. I don't understand how you allow 60s camp on low lvl people without any punishment for this. For instance, i was just doing a-me 01 quest in Ungoro where you need to escort mechanical gorilla. I bought Mithril casing on AH for 1g, then spend good 10 minutes waiting for gorilla, then escorted it almost to the destination. When it was 1 meter to the destination, gorilla decided to chase Horde shaman (which is a bug) and followed him pretty far away, then when it decided to abandon shaman, it found like 10-15 aggro mobs, and finally returned to the route. Again, when it was like 5 meter to the end, we got ganked by a bunch of 60s for a pure fun, the same bunch that killed me two times when I just arrived to Ungoro. So I spent 1g, 40 minutes of my time and 1 year of my life in the equivalent of destroyed nerve cells just to support a true spirit of a PvP server. I don't see how a 49 against a bunch of geared 60s is called PvP. When I joined this server I thought it was blizzlike,but when I got 20+ and understood high lvls can gank me for fun it was too late to change anything. May be disabling DH kills was a bad decision ?
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by Marcusius » Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:43 am

To the OP: No.
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by Ghostly » Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:49 am

Nobody disabled them calm down. DKs arent even intended to be awarded for killing of low level players, and they never were.
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