Server optimizations and battlegrounds

[Kelorek]

As I understand it one of the optimizations to allow the server to handle 7k+ people is limiting the range/sight that other players load. This is understandably necessary, and frankly its pretty amazing that the server does handle so many people so well.

I was wondering if it would effect server performance to turn these optimizations off for battlegrounds?
Battlegrounds are arguably the only place it really becomes necessary to see your enemies at a distance. It's really strange not being able to see a battle taking place in the AV fields when you're running along the outskirts, or not being able to see people at blacksmith if you're sitting up at lumber mill.

It seems to me that the subset of zones/players currently in a battleground would be fairly small.

[trorsmang]

Yes I second this idea and it sounds great, especially for AB and WSG.

Would also like to suggest getting rid of mind control ablility being usable in battlegrounds. It just gets abused all the time by people using it to get players out of battlegrounds and deserter flagged. Even worse sometimes it causes the person being mind controlled to get kicked from the server which is just stupid that priests get an ability that has a chance to kick their victim from the server. It even has a chance to get your account banned by the anti cheat system causing you to have to then submit an appeal and wait for however long it takes to get your account unbanned assuming it does. All because a priest mind controlled you for 2 seconds. This just happened to me for the first time today and have been waiting hours now to get unbanned when I'm trying to grind honor. Seems like if something is that buggy it shouldn't be allowed.

[Lorilay]

In AB players at the blacksmith flag don't show up for me until I'm almost riding past the blacksmith graveyard. It's unfortunate that it's so difficult to see enemy players in a battleground that's extremely dependent on scouting.

[zzxx]

Yes please, draw distance has gone down a lot in bgs past few weeks

Possibly set priority on instanced things like bgs, dungeons, raids ?

[TomDeBaere]

I think the draw distance might just be a global setting... But it would indeed be very handy, especially in AB!

[Kelorek]

Its not really just about being handy, it entirely changes the game play experience.
This is a cost that the developers likely think is worth it, and it probably is for world PvP and NPCs, but I am hoping its possible to tweak it for battlegrounds specifically.

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[Dreez]

There really shouldn't be any reason to decrease viewing distance in battlegrounds (AB /WSG)
Max amount of players in AB is 30, adding 12 game objects (flags + gates + buffs) and around 25 NPCs (horses, cats, farmers etc)
Max amount of players in WSG is 20, adding 8 game objects (flags + gates + buffs)

I fail to see how this is negatively affecting server performance while it isn't unlikely to have 300+ players in viewing distance in major cities.

In addition battlegrounds are instanced.

I do understand a viewing distance decrease in AV though with hundreds of NPCs and objects

[Daemon]

Visibility distance in battlegrounds has been increased by 40%. We continue monitoring performance so see potential side effects, and may revert this change if it has negative impacts.

[Blaze]

Thank you for the response and tweaking the draw distance Daemon, the people who pvp here definitely appreciate it.

As someone who has been here pretty much since day 1 I'm definitely hoping at some point the hardware comes around, or a solution is created to allow us to play in an Azeroth in which we get 100% draw distance. Bless you.