To everybody asking for a 2nd server.

[azreal3133]

So let me get this straight.

People want to split the pop and risk everything that goes along with that because they have to compete for mobs and nodes? That's about as rich as that rogue complaining about the extra tenth of a second it takes to dismount and stealth, or the guy in the other thread wanting a server split because it takes an extra second to send mail.

It would serve you bunch of entitled bitches right if the server did die because of your stupid requests. But seeing as there are a bunch of other players on they server, we shouldn't kill it just to teach you a lesson.

As I stated, splitting the population is a bad idea. However, starting a new server and temporarily allowing a limited number of people to transfer over isn't nearly as risky of a thing as you guys are making it out to be. It is exactly how Blizzard handled its growing population during Vanilla. Would it really hurt your butt that bad if the 8k peaking server turned into a 6k peaking server and a 2k peaking server for a while? It would take pressure off of the current server and give the constant influx of new players a place to go.

You guys keep ignoring the fact that the population is continually increasing. Could we all rack our brains and come up with a workable solution to the problems that our current population presents? Sure, probably. Could we all learn to live with a little bit of lag when we're trying to send mail or use our abilities? Probably. But what you seem to be having a hard time getting through your head is that the problems are evolving as the population grows. There's 1/10 second lag when trying to dismount right now? Alrighty, but what happens a month down the road when it turns into 2 second lag? Your attitude is akin to a person who has water leaking into their home but they simply put a bucket under it and call it a done deal.

Also, people aren't "entitled" just because they have preferences about how this server should be. If that were the case, then you would be just as much of an "entitled bitch" as anybody else. You prefer a server that has over double the population of a retail Vanilla server? Great, I'm glad for you. However, some of us came here because Nostalrius sold itself as a lag-free, completely Blizzlike realm. As the population continues to grow, the realm becomes increasingly less lag-free and less Blizzlike. The fact that my preferences differ from yours doesn't make them any less credible or important. If anything, my preferences are more in line with what Nostalrius claims to be.

Thank you for eloquently posting what I was too lazy to say myself because I'm tired of dealing with people like Tucker on the forums, you're awesome and I 100% agree with everything you said.

[tuck3r]

A 2nd server(server not realm) could be used to have EK and Dunegeons/raids on one server then kalimdor and BGs on the other server, like i already said in one of my previous post
A 2nd realm is the worst possible thing they could do.

And azreal you can shutup, kiddo

[PeaceHammer]

I was originally opposed to a second server. But I've changed my mind. At some point, they NEED to add another server. Things are just getting too crowded. It's not "blizzlike" at all.

I think a new PvE server would be ideal.

[Kil]

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You'll have to excuse me if seeing a bunch of people coming here whining that because quests take 5 mins longer, they got killed once in pvp, and mailing items to their alts takes an extra two seconds Nost should make a new server, doesn't really scream "preferences about the server". It screams "Me me me, I I I, Now now now. I've been momentarily inconvenienced and I should be catered to regardless of any overall or long term damage done to the server".

Now. In regards to people with sensible reasons and arguments for a server split. What's the biggest concern about the population? Server issues. We are peaking at around 7.5k and there hasn't been any noticeable issues. We don't know how it will be at 10k+. We hope but don't know that it will even get to 10k+. How about we wait until it gets there, see how the server handles it, and make decisions accordingly instead of doing something drastic because of a knee jerk reaction to something we don't even know will happen or not.

[Robotron]

I remember the days of yore when Blizzard opened new servers with free moves from high pop servers. You'd get a ghost town of a new server and a ravaged old one. I played on Nathrezim at the end of Vanilla all the way until Sunwell, and from what I hear, it used to have a few pretty good Naxx guilds, but after a while, it became and stayed a dump.

Then I started playing on Illidan, and ho boy, what an amazing shift that was, except during the "Illidown" and times when you'd get a 2-hour queue.

[azreal3133]

I remember the days of yore when Blizzard opened new servers with free moves from high pop servers. You'd get a ghost town of a new server and a ravaged old one. I played on Nathrezim at the end of Vanilla all the way until Sunwell, and from what I hear, it used to have a few pretty good Naxx guilds, but after a while, it became and stayed a dump.

Then I started playing on Illidan, and ho boy, what an amazing shift that was, except during the "Illidown" and times when you'd get a 2-hour queue.

The difference is my friend, is that the Blizz servers capped at 2.5k players, not 8k+ players which we are now frequenting almost every day during peak hours, making a 2nd server and allowing free transfers to it wouldn't even make a dent in the amount of people you see in the world on the current single server and the population has been steadily growing, not going down like most people expected it would, worst thing comes to worst they just merge the servers far later on down the road if the population on both dwindles to unacceptable levels. Queues are not the answer to this problem because they make the game even more of a time sink than it already is. The lag is getting increasingly bad, while it is still only a minor nuisance along with the crashes the server is now frequenting how can we say that these won't increase in effect and frequency as the server's population continues to grow. When the server was down at 5k players on peak people had no issue with the population being "too low", why is it now that we're frequently hitting 8k+ players that having a couple thousand people move to a 2nd server cutting the server back down to a respectable 5-6k people that 5k is not enough players?

[tuck3r]

if you dont like the population then go play on some dead server.
simple as that, problem solved

[azreal3133]

if you dont like the population then go play on some dead server.
simple as that, problem solved

Rofl that's probably the stupidest thing I've heard all day, nobody has a problem with a large population, what people do have a problem with are the implications that come with having an EXCESSIVELY large population on a single server.

[Stench]

I like the population, just not the associated lag that comes with it.

[Fear3d]

if you dont like the population then go play on some dead server.
simple as that, problem solved

You seem confused. There are people who don't like the population, so they're asking for a new server to be made so that they can play on it. How does the end result differ from what you are suggesting?

A 2nd server(server not realm) could be used to have EK and Dunegeons/raids on one server then kalimdor and BGs on the other server, like i already said in one of my previous post
A 2nd realm is the worst possible thing they could do.

I, admittedly, haven't fiddled with Mangos a whole bunch, so I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that it doesn't support that type of stuff. If that's actually the case, then adding in such features would require a pretty significant overhaul of the server's core. It's unlikely to happen.

And azreal you can shutup, kiddo

Why is he any less entitled to speak than you are?