Vanilla vs TBC, in world PvPish point of view

[Kelorek]

no world pvp does not die with flying mounts at all the thing that killed world pvp was garrison and click to joins. if anything it allows more people to get to areas faster increasing world pvp. world pvp was nuts in tbc and on the crazy pop servers that nost has outland is going to be an outright warzone shatrath will be your safe place

It really will be a warzone. You will be relieved when you successfully mount up again so you can take a small break from it ... until you decide you need to land again to complete some objective.

The thing that eventually killed World pvp was lack of objectives + phasing. In far later expansions.
Even Wotlk had a solid amount of world pvp (altho less than tbc)

[bakedgoods1312]

i cant wait ^_^

[Simonich]

Same! I wanna paint the map red with those captured objectives! Everytime you will see me online i will not rest till every objective is red, i will bring along my guildies too.

[Killstick]

Did any of these world PvP things have any reward/rep that was worth it in TBC? I think thats always the major factor... like it or not people want to progress in the game.
As always you can world PvP in areas where there are high valued resources, group quests, instance entrances.

Even though you won't have to grind foor honor you can still use it to buy outdated arena sets. I think you also needed honor for the offset pieces. Arena might drain away some more people.
Also PvE gets alot more accesable in TBC. With heroics (tokens), 10 man karazhan, 25 man raids. Aswell as daily quest and repgrinds.

I don't really get why you are so exited about these world PvP spots and just won't do BGs. Alot of the premade scene will just do arena. So BG will become more "free for all"

[Simonich]

Did any of these world PvP things have any reward/rep that was worth it in TBC? I think thats always the major factor... like it or not people want to progress in the game.
As always you can world PvP in areas where there are high valued resources, group quests, instance entrances.

Even though you won't have to grind foor honor you can still use it to buy outdated arena sets. I think you also needed honor for the offset pieces. Arena might drain away some more people.
Also PvE gets alot more accesable in TBC. With heroics (tokens), 10 man karazhan, 25 man raids. Aswell as daily quest and repgrinds.

I don't really get why you are so exited about these world PvP spots and just won't do BGs. Alot of the premade scene will just do arena. So BG will become more "free for all"

Simply because i like things that are not instanced, the thing about capturing things in the main overworld, where everything can interfere with everyone.

I like the concept of fighting for your faction, and it is best expressed in world pvp, especially with capturable objectives. Invading honor hold..everyone can interfere, reinforce the assault or defend against it, random war scenarios happening across the world, i dont know how else to describe it. BGs are just instances, in tbc, i will see them as objectives where the 2 factions strive to control the rich resources they have, which will be used for the production of pvp gear, which gear will be used to the actual war in the open world

[Uzephi]

Did any of these world PvP things have any reward/rep that was worth it in TBC? I think thats always the major factor... like it or not people want to progress in the game.
As always you can world PvP in areas where there are high valued resources, group quests, instance entrances.

Even though you won't have to grind foor honor you can still use it to buy outdated arena sets. I think you also needed honor for the offset pieces. Arena might drain away some more people.
Also PvE gets alot more accesable in TBC. With heroics (tokens), 10 man karazhan, 25 man raids. Aswell as daily quest and repgrinds.

I don't really get why you are so exited about these world PvP spots and just won't do BGs. Alot of the premade scene will just do arena. So BG will become more "free for all"

Halaa battle tokens... Awarded to the group that gave the killing blow. HFP if you had all nodes captured you would get a zone wide buff AND instance/raid buff for extra exp and damage. Essentially, yes, there is incentive to capture the zone.

[Kelorek]

Did any of these world PvP things have any reward/rep that was worth it in TBC? I think thats always the major factor... like it or not people want to progress in the game.
As always you can world PvP in areas where there are high valued resources, group quests, instance entrances.

Even though you won't have to grind foor honor you can still use it to buy outdated arena sets. I think you also needed honor for the offset pieces. Arena might drain away some more people.
Also PvE gets alot more accesable in TBC. With heroics (tokens), 10 man karazhan, 25 man raids. Aswell as daily quest and repgrinds.

I don't really get why you are so exited about these world PvP spots and just won't do BGs. Alot of the premade scene will just do arena. So BG will become more "free for all"

Simply because i like things that are not instanced, the thing about capturing things in the main overworld, where everything can interfere with everyone.

I like the concept of fighting for your faction, and it is best expressed in world pvp, especially with capturable objectives. Invading honor hold..everyone can interfere, reinforce the assault or defend against it, random war scenarios happening across the world, i dont know how else to describe it. BGs are just instances, in tbc, i will see them as objectives where the 2 factions strive to control the rich resources they have, which will be used for the production of pvp gear, which gear will be used to the actual war in the open world

You're going to love Halaa.

[Killstick]

Halaa battle tokens... Awarded to the group that gave the killing blow. HFP if you had all nodes captured you would get a zone wide buff AND instance/raid buff for extra exp and damage. Essentially, yes, there is incentive to capture the zone.

Yeah but are any of these things actually any good. Just like with Vanilla there will be BiS list for pvp and pve come release. If none of the items are on there... I do however remember doing some halaa stuff. No idea why tbh

[Uzephi]

Halaa battle tokens... Awarded to the group that gave the killing blow. HFP if you had all nodes captured you would get a zone wide buff AND instance/raid buff for extra exp and damage. Essentially, yes, there is incentive to capture the zone.

Yeah but are any of these things actually any good. Just like with Vanilla there will be BiS list for pvp and pve come release. If none of the items are on there... I do however remember doing some halaa stuff. No idea why tbh

http://db.hellground.net/?npc=18822

That resilience Gem is nice. Only other resil gem with that kind of stats won't be until 2.3 or 2.4 items come in when jewelers can make it. "Free" 18 slot bag as well. The PVP gear is "meh" but decent until you grind the honor or AP for the level 70 pvp gear. Resil>all in TBC.

http://db.hellground.net/?item=30612 bullets (38.2 DPS before 2.1)
http://db.hellground.net/?item=30611 arrows (38.2 DPS before 2.1) were also not Soulbound and unique 200. You could only buy them when you had Halaa and next best arrows/bullets are below

http://db.hellground.net/?item=32883 Close to pre 2.1 DPS but better than post 2.1 DPS. http://db.hellground.net/?item=24412 (for arrow equivalent of those rep bullets)
http://db.hellground.net/?item=33803 way more expensive than 50s a stack to boot.
http://db.hellground.net/?item=34581 double the price.

[Simonich]

Just realised LFG was added in TBC



But i guess that doesnt harm world pvp a lot now, does it?

Also, except for the pvp titles that our chars will hold in tbc, i heard theres also another title to be gained by having exalted with all bg factions? Will it be earnable during tbc too or just pretbc?